From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18068 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2023 16:37:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Jun 2023 16:37:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC6F40C00; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 02:37:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-xf33.google.com (mail-qv1-xf33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f33]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A17EE40BB9 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 02:37:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-xf33.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-62df502af03so5945016d6.0 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:37:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1686674258; x=1689266258; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=jMvgYi9ZRnMNPPXEL9BkFZHpe1Wf3TN2771EQ1aPa2c=; b=AAWjNn/YRbR9AI3EJsq+3I9VtvfyUgZan4qLSgogQZIf7Mi3oQ7ZX9thky51ow1c/S Z9Y71ERRezNwSbqrxpJgEI9tk/j9d6SKTrIc6cIIaoay2MMNEb2fhIBt8I66kvDCATbZ QKmol+0xHciJOdnb3A1aWXB6L+im8SM5hLSLM3mbihwI9/EdloK3x2TBNwLceSoamXJN VgDGsNEY7Bffo311cZ9NvWGp5+OgzMdbqW7T+ZZvHd6yoOxFrx18B9GSbkRCYqWl4g1u 0HDPa0jVK2CpsdUUxQOG9eI/nBj2GPP9ReOF/w639Dm57O5FeVt1HbuVn4ZB0F2YIGjw Y6YQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1686674258; x=1689266258; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=jMvgYi9ZRnMNPPXEL9BkFZHpe1Wf3TN2771EQ1aPa2c=; b=EvKV04ljreo4ke0P5DUq5TwiQ78s9un9bsC2sEi1D/pCZONvcweMgqJhU4q1ALOuLo wSXAhvsD7GQhNJC6yXaOd+VeS6JUpGOZJzrqWtasKbBheQ2VDZXiXrrY602jBCdYFQoZ l4CRb0InpJJF9y/AGj290Q6TmH8PynvvJ0VdtYYmzoHm05imKIIP8v7mVTIrwQZt00nP dDNx+qY8YAJzW25e+HWzJWHhlo0do7moBOjNYCZyDxxJKcDG6gKwDNgSt/tikUKMtRcw NgYUJ2pUsTbdgiPzduFk1jOUYEK017DCywMsNavYc+Tfv2BCu9bJxj9AH6xWgJnRXA3i jxZw== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDxStJ85sRxHWxs6SGyzTFTOneaEKrF38bYph+itzkUIg5KamNE/ Q5KiVIrwHpVVOi/12cKkPm8Kp2KuzmIPcFlUJgU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ54uavUqYSEskRQmdtX4yksiJvpBJlQDtzNmR7urxJff9H0Whk98QzNVUlNYgmZ/dhUutv9YjLHJUtrNWQmfaQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:dab:b0:621:6804:b8c0 with SMTP id h11-20020a0562140dab00b006216804b8c0mr15079744qvh.8.1686674257985; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:37:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: ron minnich Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:37:26 -0700 Message-ID: To: Dave Horsfall Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ffc51105fe05732c" Message-ID-Hash: 5CO6UIQTIKV2LFRUWMHIRWXROKJBEC7J X-Message-ID-Hash: 5CO6UIQTIKV2LFRUWMHIRWXROKJBEC7J X-MailFrom: rminnich@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: crt0 -- what's in that name? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000ffc51105fe05732c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks all. In 1976, at udel, we thought it meant c runtime startoff and that seems to be a reasonable interpretation. Kind of nice that a very new system, oreboot, will have a bt0 performing about the same function :-) On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 10:28=E2=80=AFPM Dave Horsfall = wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, Clem Cole wrote: > > > > I've always thought of it as "C run time stage 0". > > > > crt - C RunTme. I always heard it expressed as C runtime SYSTEM or > > START > > Ah; well, I was almost right :-) It's been a while since I was using > Ed 5 where I first saw that comment... > > -- Dave --000000000000ffc51105fe05732c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks all. In 1976, at udel, we thought it meant c runtim= e startoff=C2=A0and that seems to be a reasonable interpretation.=C2=A0
Kind of nice that a very new system, oreboot, will have a b= t0 performing about the same function :-)

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 10:2= 8=E2=80=AFPM Dave Horsfall <dave@ho= rsfall.org> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, Clem Cole wrote:

> > I've always thought of it as "C run time stage 0".<= br> >
> crt - C RunTme.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I always heard it expressed as C =C2=A0run= time SYSTEM or
> START

Ah; well, I was almost right :-)=C2=A0 It's been a while since I was us= ing
Ed 5 where I first saw that comment...

-- Dave
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