From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: rminnich@gmail.com (ron minnich) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 20:51:06 +0000 Subject: [TUHS] Were all of you.. Hippies? In-Reply-To: References: <20170320214858.TIJoR%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <009301d2a1c9$cb604c70$6220e550$@ronnatalie.com> <20170321202839.GG21805@naleco.com> Message-ID: My belief is that if a kernel requires something like lspci to enumerate pci resources then it's forgotten an important lesson of Unix. On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:19 PM Michael Parson wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2017, Josh Good wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:28:40 +0100 > > From: Josh Good > > To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org > > Subject: Re: [TUHS] Were all of you.. Hippies? > > > > On 2017 Mar 20, 23:05, ron minnich wrote: > >> At the time I got into Unix in 1976, E. F. Schumacher's "Small is > >> Beautiful" book was fairly popular > > > >> (...) Those days are long gone of course; I noticed the other day that > >> on Linux there are 16 commands that start with ls, that do roughly > >> the same function, and nobody seems to think this is a bad thing. The > >> only place the original 'small is beautiful' Unix ideas continue on > >> that I know of is Plan 9. > > > > In RedHat Enterprise Linux 5.11 (without X-Window) I get: > > > > $ ls > > ls lsattr lsb_release lshal lspgpot > > > > Whereas in Ubuntu 14.04 (full desktop install) I get: > > > > $ ls > > ls lsblk lscpu lsdvd lsinitramfs lsof > lspcmcia lss16toppm > > lsattr lsb_release lsdiff lshw lsmod lspci > lspgpot lsusb > > > > But then, in UnixWare 2.1 I get: > > > > $ bash > > bash-2.01$ ls > > (...no output...) > > > > So yeah, it's getting more bloated by the day. > > > > Anyone can contribute how is it on a recent OpenBSD without X-Window? > > How about NetBSD 6.1.4: > > $ ls > ls lsb lsextattr lsof lspci lsx lsz > > Though only 'ls' and 'lsextattr' are part of the base install, the > others are owned by various things installed out of pkgsrc, ls[bxz] are > all from the same package. > > -- > Michael Parson > Pflugerville, TX > KF5LGQ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: