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From: ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
To: Paul Winalski <paul.winalski@gmail.com>
Cc: Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>, tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Demise of AT&T
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 12:17:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP6exYJtUHb81Q=xX9tbh=YiipBze_TXKCRmRYPb7rraybW5rw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABH=_VSNMFbB=b31vynUcvtrrnSV=O3iNfHGjWRdv_H9j0Ba-w@mail.gmail.com>

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I had a talk with a DEC salesman in Sep 1990. They had just loaned me a
DECStation for eval.

me: "What happens if computers become commodities like sneakers"
DEC salesman: "we go out of business"

They were right.

On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 9:18 AM Paul Winalski <paul.winalski@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 9:43 AM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>     > It wasn't just AT&T, IBM & DEC that got run over by commodity DRAM &
>>     > CPU's, it was the entire Minicomputer Industry, effectively extinct
>> by
>>     > 1995.
>>
>> Same thing for the work-station industry (with Sun being merely the most
>> notable example).
>>
>
> Indeed.  Extinction of existing practice by new technology happens all the
> time and not just in the computer field.  Before sound recording and
> playback was invented,  fancy restaurants, hotels, etc. hired orchestras to
> play background music.  The phonograph put a huge number of orchestras out
> of business.
>
> There's a knee-jerk tendency in our industry for companies to respond to
> new technology by retreating to the high end of the market in an attempt to
> protect profit margins.  IBM did this when minicomputers came along; Apollo
> did it when confronted with cheap workstations (Sun); DEC did it when the
> PC appeared; Intel right now is attempting to do it to stave off
> competition from ARM.  In all cases the effort has been unsuccessful and
> usually has resulted in the death of the company (IBM has survived, but as
> a shadow of its former self).
>
> I think it was Scott McNealy who said (regarding protecting existing
> products and profit margins) that a tech company must be prepared to eat
> its own children.  If they don't, the competition will.
>
> -Paul W.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-19 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-19 13:42 Noel Chiappa
2025-05-19 16:18 ` Paul Winalski
2025-05-19 19:17   ` ron minnich [this message]
2025-05-19 19:44 ` [TUHS] Whither Workstations? (Was Re: Demise of AT&T) Dan Cross
2025-05-19 20:28   ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2025-05-19 20:54     ` Dan Cross
2025-05-21 15:30       ` Stuart Remphrey
     [not found]       ` <2e11a860-253c-696f-e1d0-8907b40870e8@riddermarkfarm.ca>
     [not found]         ` <69CD1C29-0215-46EF-ADC3-527330F45208@canb.auug.org.au>
2025-05-27 23:03           ` Martin Schröder
     [not found]           ` <bb7cd052-7d3f-68e3-754f-59c84e341d10@makerlisp.com>
     [not found]             ` <1c8121e4-5011-8a63-1147-aa967e9ac872@makerlisp.com>
     [not found]               ` <7c4d912d-7512-ef74-7535-8239fb55bb27@makerlisp.com>
     [not found]                 ` <d718e268-15d8-393b-6a4d-fb066f06d662@makerlisp.com>
     [not found]                   ` <4318e32f-a1b1-c366-c36d-f210d047b379@makerlisp.com>
2025-05-28  7:18                     ` Warren Toomey via TUHS
2025-05-23 20:25     ` Kevin Bowling
     [not found]       ` <gx0lVGH90f4F9Os4Ovj-VJy4NOciyBu7hmLl7kSJWh-3bGOX5-NWpZLoOcADoH7OXHp53rUJQvPmvyzydVjyqzf61VJgTpynSuY8Msgo-y8=@protonmail.com>
2025-05-26 23:26         ` [TUHS] Re: WE321 3B/VME boar (Re: Whither Workstations? (Was Re: Demise of AT&T)) Greg A. Woods

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