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From: ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: another OSX 100% less Unix
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 20:30:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP6exYK+2PunO18ALmsuwkjNoy88XadTaNaO_yWErQnOx_45Kw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP6exY+p1AwGOixSBVBYeUmmvRcpq9pgXN5iGJw0t58wYWVm_A@mail.gmail.com>

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and, yes, on linux, it behaves more properly
rminnich@pop-os:/tmp/t$ cpio -ivt < ../t.cpio
-rw-rw-r--   1 rminnich rminnich        0 Jun 26 20:29 a
-rw-rw-r--   2 rminnich rminnich        0 Jun 26 20:29 b
-rw-rw-r--   2 rminnich rminnich        0 Jun 26 20:29 c
1 block



On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 8:29 PM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a directory, t:
> ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ ls -li
> total 0
> 23801442 -rw-r--r--  1 rminnich  wheel  0 Jun 26 20:21 a
> 23801443 -rw-r--r--  2 rminnich  wheel  0 Jun 26 20:21 b
> 23801443 -rw-r--r--  2 rminnich  wheel  0 Jun 26 20:21 c
>
> note that b and c are the same inode.
>
> let's make a cpio.
>
> ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ cpio -o >../t.cpio
> a
> b
> c
> ^D
> 1 block
>
> what's in it?
> ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ cpio -ivt < ../t.cpio
> -rw-r--r--   1 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:21 a
> -rw-r--r--   2 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:21 b
> -rw-r--r--   2 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:21 c link to b
>
> "c link to b"? wtf? Who thought that was a good idea? because ...
> ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ touch 'c link to b'
> ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ ls -l
> total 0
> -rw-r--r--  1 rminnich  wheel  0 Jun 26 20:21 a
> -rw-r--r--  2 rminnich  wheel  0 Jun 26 20:21 b
> -rw-r--r--  2 rminnich  wheel  0 Jun 26 20:21 c
> -rw-r--r--  1 rminnich  wheel  0 Jun 26 20:22 c link to b
>
> and
> ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ cpio -o >../t.cpio
> a
> b
> c
> c link to b
> ^D
>
> ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ cpio -ivt < ../t.cpio
> -rw-r--r--   1 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:21 a
> -rw-r--r--   2 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:21 b
> -rw-r--r--   2 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:21 c link to b
> -rw-r--r--   1 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:22 c link to b
>
> so ... it looks like a file is there twice, because somebody thought it
> was a good idea to confuse a file name and file metadata. And, anyway, it's
> just as accurate to have it say
> -rw-r--r--   1 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:21 a
> -rw-r--r--   2 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:21 b link to c
> -rw-r--r--   2 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:21 c link to b
> -rw-r--r--   1 rminnich wheel           0 Jun 26 20:22 c link to b
> Right? :-)
>
> From the same people who brought you this:
> ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ bc
> >>>
>
> Somebody needs to get the osx folks a unix manual set :-)
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-27  3:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-27  3:29 [TUHS] " ron minnich
2024-06-27  3:30 ` ron minnich [this message]
2024-06-27  9:47 ` [TUHS] " Leah Neukirchen
2024-06-27 22:22   ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-06-27 11:55 ` Peter Yardley
2024-06-27 12:06   ` Dan Cross
2024-06-27 13:54     ` Warner Losh
2024-06-27 19:08 ` Stuff Received
2024-06-27 19:44   ` segaloco via TUHS

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