From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12483 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2023 01:25:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Dec 2023 01:25:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD5243D65; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 11:25:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-x232.google.com (mail-lj1-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::232]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8343A43D64 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 11:25:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-x232.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2c9f7fe6623so64401871fa.3 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:25:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1702344330; x=1702949130; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=v64gUyLxQfuN+uCUQtPBMAroEbmaEjRhh3Kqr0hgc78=; b=bm2Gw4A/WLYozVC7b9/5B7EXW2IddCSaQTg9G9+vCuoJRe4UgQ9Amy2kZKAv9mCY+M gi/qYHsG0uFNRYQL45OZ6IVvKZkteD0EE6BWN3i4S0OJGaSp6IPrI2relxCfCxCbxXuc 7ld6qEowrWt3G95LKyk+E6G8zoTrLcVn4rlNUTP9y8SQthwHQu6StM91vmCVPnPBsNUQ X9C4EA3RZNOGtt3mD1SjmqOkkbS1HrB5ji/c4q64uwBmj8K81GVSpvGfoNeaVTxg0OnL 6d+ONyiN5Hlo26LbBV4jWFb3RtC8A++eosYJSWktZlnq48pjyZj+pLi9HmJXi+LABcoR PNzA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702344330; x=1702949130; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=v64gUyLxQfuN+uCUQtPBMAroEbmaEjRhh3Kqr0hgc78=; b=D6Cc4Qe2tmC+Blw/2GKTGwjdwoOrI0N0GNjDPT4oGDKh7YLYCpBKqv9w4Ipe9QzMHM SonFk1YBzotHxeM8t/qTH1gw9wxnP+rfawfTlixBFFcK40QSWFz4reFazlLaBTIIMsEx cQ9K65ZhBVOLQlro59D0gx2RJ3k1y8G2YOKro2PTW0AAgcN/wvrXvb9KuHr32X+e5CTk DrXXf4xZ0LqvBpcamDJ0PolzAY0iWdmNYJbYcz+BOUDktY8outcH0/dfpmCSoa44rQJF MLygebC+NciDXn+bTRRoHc09bY90WeDh+/XNxVc5B3/p5TccM87vD5Z178EUCEd/pT50 WRWA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy3iy61DdBpmQUL3PwScKaNzZqa2yIGw8rKAd8lGwP8gvcSdgvJ oaaIJ8q01JFPvZzs4kvsfv6BXc/rh3H5hVGnvKqHPJ0t X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFImZoTyhyGyJdbhkO8insmCtC0AoSI3wcYsvHQmf57WHnn4jfTl0UsO5La8QXiDp+XTjv9wztvErDvnwRC6Nc= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:7c0f:0:b0:2ca:321:fccb with SMTP id x15-20020a2e7c0f000000b002ca0321fccbmr1677889ljc.91.1702344330347; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:25:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: ron minnich Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:25:18 -0800 Message-ID: To: segaloco Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001889e1060c45ed53" Message-ID-Hash: G5HHICAEAGGT5TD5RG6C4NHV3XICTOTJ X-Message-ID-Hash: G5HHICAEAGGT5TD5RG6C4NHV3XICTOTJ X-MailFrom: rminnich@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill. List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000001889e1060c45ed53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder. On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS w= rote: > While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on > ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is sa= id > and done. You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet > somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls, > formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern > equivalent fails to come to mind. > > For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of curiosity= , > openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering the human > condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and othe= r > Bell Labs sites over the decades. A video I watched recently about the > breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections o= f > Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to something > greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company. > Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, a= nd > businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of > magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such > important times passing too into the sands of time. > > - Matt G. > On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich > wrote: > > April 16, 2014, from the Unix room: > > "I'm about to turn this terminal off, > the last one in the Unix Room. It's the > same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since > before left." > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2=80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princ= eton < > martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote: > >> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion. >> >> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance >> between them. >> >> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide the >> corporate directory. >> >> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to >> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Val= ley >> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name >> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet. >> >> =3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739 >> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote: >> >> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure. >> Maybe they'll use it for other groups. >> >> >> john >> >> >> > --0000000000001889e1060c45ed53 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder.
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On Mon= , Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06=E2=80=AFPM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
While my gut says not likely, I'm holdi= ng out hope that Nokia is keen on ensuring someone does a historical sweep = of the premises before all is said and done.=C2=A0 You never know what migh= t be sitting forgotten in a closet somewhere...a lot of history has gone do= wn in those illustrious halls, formative moments in our quest for better te= chnology for which a modern equivalent fails to come to mind.
For me it's not just about innovations though, but a cultur= e of curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering= the human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH= and other Bell Labs sites over the decades.=C2=A0 A video I watched recent= ly about the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless reco= llections of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to = something greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone c= ompany.=C2=A0 Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, = scientist, and businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by or= ders of magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of= such important times passing too into the sands of time.

- Mat= t G.
On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>= wrote:

April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:

"I'm about to turn this terminal off,
the last o= ne in the Unix Room. It's the
same 400MHz Pentium II I've had si= nce
before <someone> left."

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46=E2= =80=AFAM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <mart= ymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
Thus following the Holmdel facility= into the Halls of Oblivion.

my current locati= on, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance between them.
<= div>
I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '= 90s, there to divide the corporate directory.

Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucen= t had to shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silic= on Valley for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the = Name Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dict= ionary as yet.

=3D*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739
VP of Membership, MIT C= lub of Princeton
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On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at = 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
I can't believe the= y'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure. Maybe they= 9;ll use it for other groups.


j= ohn



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