From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18137 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2021 16:35:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Aug 2021 16:35:02 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 709819CAEF; Sat, 7 Aug 2021 02:34:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCECC9C9E8; Sat, 7 Aug 2021 02:34:40 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="qM4mrxYf"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1DBDA9C9E8; Sat, 7 Aug 2021 02:34:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ot1-f52.google.com (mail-ot1-f52.google.com [209.85.210.52]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54BD29C9E0 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 2021 02:34:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ot1-f52.google.com with SMTP id e13-20020a056830200db02904f06fa2790cso9571174otp.1 for ; Fri, 06 Aug 2021 09:34:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VTKGVcYSBn5wdRpOt23EMovvjrSTOGc72wQ9NF5URy8=; b=qM4mrxYfLod1mBjxYKB29Lg3hW2B7VPpMHu+cp0ORTff82MoKkrFLyYLmBQ7tGMsbq cTNBNoBou8zA2gNF5WgDl9sYVd9Ogesg3g5upAHugrBCbYW48t4BJy2t1nOxH8o3lxPH /gB4qRljePZud1+S/yRvlOFoYYpkF/MMwiRLQnStGjuCkd5SwhY2u3GEEKdu2N+vpNYU vyJYhdFh5u7B7A9urffXjcNaCUpIUU+P/V9X+pg9hrwlOv0H+b+OoTbkWdo3IVdkzvnj HO0UmfzfHs/w9cQgdKh6cDJifGHI42DCNr4LSDmy0gSuTZM6fbprlgCAs9pwfmdWKI0X hm/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VTKGVcYSBn5wdRpOt23EMovvjrSTOGc72wQ9NF5URy8=; b=b1sgLId+7ogMN9JF+jUKaUahCiqW2URHj2VQM9TOLbFKyqXDR+yd6ww8GemvUVoCPO V+1koEClUc0tQHqJ+BnkpDw3Hn7jjEEy8kOfkI5EXBekTQrC1YQ+0feL1cevj/fQwiWs GtA4oQNVrFNltI1PLw1UJsunD8IlYCUApbUVX7ySZ1gMmUDWAZJPqomRYH9uCT+UVPOm xYP9RUggJX7e46G58tMxHaN7q/54+SaA65DncKyyGytjBNopZQd5fYGZL33Xyyy43ymM hxFRNebhVIyginDqZkpxfrP5CYR/actz3E9bbEOwWa9ZGxfHDfhfjBrc/iQPMs7hbLQX DiUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533n4LNdwQrAHJwxcoKiLYX5SH2agWVe38n1uTj9MKDJ5ipYRPEZ 7FrxrPCFaTah7Lo7ox/UT3h1l684TZsLFz+G0Rc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwUL8V4NiHmBHoGVc9ZyOa8vnq2Awaln7YzYYborbWeA3x0bl6KtClqZFclOaJmpCW2G2YJXUcOY9SrXJ0FInM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:241a:: with SMTP id j26mr8161760ots.6.1628267676489; Fri, 06 Aug 2021 09:34:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <-AmqyEPDFGA7JKlNEOgAqahmsc7dqEexT1kaQbALEzVtMU9DkZiBCg9p4ikYcJwHGsYprzFx13yPLlbW3PL0lHGBWFcDFp2dcleM7B20wcc=@jfloren.net> In-Reply-To: <-AmqyEPDFGA7JKlNEOgAqahmsc7dqEexT1kaQbALEzVtMU9DkZiBCg9p4ikYcJwHGsYprzFx13yPLlbW3PL0lHGBWFcDFp2dcleM7B20wcc=@jfloren.net> From: ron minnich Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 09:34:25 -0700 Message-ID: To: John Floren Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [TUHS] Depraz/Logitech Digimouse manual X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org" Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" john, don't forget to mention the beer can On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 9:29 AM John Floren wrote: > > I stuck an Arduino on it and with surprisingly little code I have it acti= ng like a 3-button USB mouse. > > The only problem is that the pointer doesn't move smoothly. It does OK le= ft-to-right, and can move down pretty well, but going up is a problem. I th= ink pushing the mouse forward tends to move the ball away from the Y-axis w= heel, and the old spring on the tensioner just doesn't have the gumption to= hold that heavy ball bearing in any more. > > > john > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original = Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 > > On Wednesday, August 4th, 2021 at 9:12 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > > John, you can see that "stick a bird on it" -> "stick an arduino on > > > > it" -> "stick a pi on it" has gone as you once predicted :-) > > > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 8:59 PM John Floren john@jfloren.net wrote: > > > > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Origi= nal Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 > > > > > > On Wednesday, August 4th, 2021 at 6:12 PM, Henry Bent henry.r.bent@gm= ail.com wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 at 20:52, John Floren john@jfloren.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > Having just been given a Depraz mouse, I thought it would be fun = to get it working on my modern computer. Since the DE9 connector is male ra= ther than female as you usually see with serial mice, and given its age, I = speculate that it might have a custom protocol; in any rate, plugging it in= to a USB-serial converter and and firing up picocom has given me nothing. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a copy of a manual for it, or more information o= n how to interface with it? If I knew how it was wired and what the protoco= l looked like, I expect I could make an adapter pretty trivially using a mi= crocontroller. > > > > > > > > This might be of some help? > > > > > > > > https://www.vcfed.org/forum/forum/technical-support/vintage-compute= r-hardware/74403-whitechapel-mg-1-depraz-mouse-grey-pinout#post904391 > > > > > > > > -Henry > > > > > > This looks great, thank you! > > > > > > john