[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

Hey,

Does anyone have any of the floppies for OpenDesktop 2.0.0? Mine got
damaged in a dehumidifier failure before they got to California.  The
only survivor was of all things...the QIC-24 tape (which I have read
fine)

sco-tape> tar tf file0 | more
./tmp/_lbl/prd=odtps/typ=u386/rel=2.0.0a/vol=1

Anyone know a good starting point for attempting to install it in to a
VM? ;)
-- 
  Cory Smelosky
  b4 at gewt.net

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Jason Stevens]

I've always added 'tape' images as 2nd disks and symlinked the devices.  Like the old way of installing Xenix, it's not very sophisticated as it looks...

On February 26, 2017 8:55:25 AM GMT+08:00, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
>Hey,
>
>Does anyone have any of the floppies for OpenDesktop 2.0.0? Mine got
>damaged in a dehumidifier failure before they got to California.  The
>only survivor was of all things...the QIC-24 tape (which I have read
>fine)
>
>sco-tape> tar tf file0 | more
>./tmp/_lbl/prd=odtps/typ=u386/rel=2.0.0a/vol=1
>
>Anyone know a good starting point for attempting to install it in to a
>VM? ;)
>-- 
>  Cory Smelosky
>  b4 at gewt.net

-- 
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[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2017, at 19:35, Jason Stevens wrote:

> I've always added 'tape' images as 2nd disks and symlinked the
> devices.  Like the old way of installing Xenix, it's not very
> sophisticated as it looks...
> 

> On February 26, 2017 8:55:25 AM GMT+08:00, Cory Smelosky
> <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
>> Hey,
>> 

>> 
>> 

>> Does anyone have any of the floppies for OpenDesktop 2.0.0? Mine got
>>
>> damaged in a dehumidifier failure before they got to California.  The
>>
>> only survivor was of all things...the QIC-24 tape (which I have read
>>
>> fine)
>> 

>> 
>> 

>> sco-tape> tar tf file0 | more
>> 

>> ./tmp/_lbl/prd=odtps/typ=u386/rel=2.0.0a/vol=1
>> 

>> 
>> 

>> Anyone know a good starting point for attempting to install it
>> in to a
>>
>> VM? ;)
>> 

> 

> --

>  Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


I'm also missing the floppies, though. 



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  Cory Smelosky

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[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Arthur Krewat]

What filesystem type does it use for root/boot/whatever?

Install operating system "X" that supports that filesystem type in the 
virtual guest, create a new disk, newfs/mkfs it, arrange the bits from 
the tape, take the newly-assembled disk and move to another VM and try 
to boot it.

Not remembering anything about how SVR3.2 boots (I think that's what 
Opendesktop is?) that's the end of my help on the subject :)


On 2/25/2017 10:46 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>
> I'm also missing the floppies, though.
>
> --
>   Cory Smelosky
>   b4 at gewt.net
>
>

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[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017, at 08:13, Arthur Krewat wrote:

> What filesystem type does it use for root/boot/whatever?

> 

>  Install operating system "X" that supports that filesystem type in
>  the virtual guest, create a new disk, newfs/mkfs it, arrange the bits
>  from the tape, take the newly-assembled disk and move to another VM
>  and try to boot it.
> 

>  Not remembering anything about how SVR3.2 boots (I think that's what
>  Opendesktop is?) that's the end of my help on the
> subject :)



Now that's a bit of a bootstrap paradox. ;)



I should be able to do that, actually. Just need...time.



> 

> 

> 

> 

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[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Rudi Blom]

The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2

Mail me if you're interested

Cheers,
rudi
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> From: Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net>
> To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
> Subject: [TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0
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>
> Hey,
>
> Does anyone have any of the floppies for OpenDesktop 2.0.0? Mine got
> damaged in a dehumidifier failure before they got to California.  The
> only survivor was of all things...the QIC-24 tape (which I have read
> fine)
>
> sco-tape> tar tf file0 | more
> ./tmp/_lbl/prd=odtps/typ=u386/rel=2.0.0a/vol=1
>
> Anyone know a good starting point for attempting to install it in to a
> VM? ;)
> --
>   Cory Smelosky
>   b4 at gewt.net

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Corey Lindsly]

> The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
> 
> Mail me if you're interested
> 
> Cheers,
> rudi

I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.

drwxr-xr-x    2 corey    1002          4096 Feb  3  2006 ./
drwxr-xr-x   27 corey    1002         20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
-rw-r--r--    1 corey    1002           156 Oct  9  2006 README
-rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002     564658176 Feb  2  2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
-rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 hba.dd*
-rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 id.dd*
-rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 niu1.dd*
-rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 niu2.dd*

I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.

--corey

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017, at 07:07, Corey Lindsly wrote:
> 
> > The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
> > 
> > Mail me if you're interested
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > rudi
> 
> I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.
> 
> drwxr-xr-x    2 corey    1002          4096 Feb  3  2006 ./
> drwxr-xr-x   27 corey    1002         20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
> -rw-r--r--    1 corey    1002           156 Oct  9  2006 README
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002     564658176 Feb  2  2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 hba.dd*
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 id.dd*
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 niu1.dd*
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 niu2.dd*
> 
> I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.
> 
> --corey

I must archive EVERYTHING! ;)

-- 
  Cory Smelosky
  b4 at gewt.net

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Rico Pajarola]

Hi Corey

can I have a copy?

thanks
Rico


On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Corey Lindsly <corey at lod.com> wrote:

>
> > The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
> >
> > Mail me if you're interested
> >
> > Cheers,
> > rudi
>
> I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.
>
> drwxr-xr-x    2 corey    1002          4096 Feb  3  2006 ./
> drwxr-xr-x   27 corey    1002         20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
> -rw-r--r--    1 corey    1002           156 Oct  9  2006 README
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002     564658176 Feb  2  2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 hba.dd*
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 id.dd*
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 niu1.dd*
> -rwxr--r--    1 corey    1002       1474560 Feb  3  2006 niu2.dd*
>
> I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.
>
> --corey
>
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[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Wesley Parish]

Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were offering free
samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.

I wanted to compare it with Linux ...

Thanks

Wesley Parish

Quoting Rico Pajarola <rp at servium.ch>:

> Hi Corey
> 
> can I have a copy?
> 
> thanks
> Rico
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Corey Lindsly <corey at lod.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > > The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
> > >
> > > Mail me if you're interested
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > rudi
> >
> > I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.
> >
> > drwxr-xr-x 2 corey 1002 4096 Feb 3 2006 ./
> > drwxr-xr-x 27 corey 1002 20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 corey 1002 156 Oct 9 2006 README
> > -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 564658176 Feb 2 2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
> > -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 hba.dd*
> > -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 id.dd*
> > -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu1.dd*
> > -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu2.dd*
> >
> > I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.
> >
> > --corey
> >
>  



"I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - Ferdinand Sor,
Method for Guitar

"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." -- Samuel Goldwyn

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Arthur Krewat]

I'm in if it can be distributed.

Is it something TUHS can archive? Sorry if that's a newbie question.



On 2/27/2017 4:51 AM, Wesley Parish wrote:
> Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were offering free
> samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
>
> I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
>
> Thanks
>
> Wesley Parish
>
> Quoting Rico Pajarola <rp at servium.ch>:
>
>> Hi Corey
>>
>> can I have a copy?
>>
>> thanks
>> Rico
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Corey Lindsly <corey at lod.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> The 'oldest' I have is a set of SCO UNIX 3.2V4.0 and V4.2
>>>>
>>>> Mail me if you're interested
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> rudi
>>> I seem to have CD and floppy images for SCO 2.1.
>>>
>>> drwxr-xr-x 2 corey 1002 4096 Feb 3 2006 ./
>>> drwxr-xr-x 27 corey 1002 20480 Feb 24 09:13 ../
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 corey 1002 156 Oct 9 2006 README
>>> -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 564658176 Feb 2 2006 SCO-2.1-CD.iso*
>>> -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 hba.dd*
>>> -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 id.dd*
>>> -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu1.dd*
>>> -rwxr--r-- 1 corey 1002 1474560 Feb 3 2006 niu2.dd*
>>>
>>> I'm happy to provide them if anyone is interested.
>>>
>>> --corey
>>>
>>   
>
>
> "I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - Ferdinand Sor,
> Method for Guitar
>
> "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." -- Samuel Goldwyn
>

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Corey Lindsly]

> 
> Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were offering free
> samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
> 
> I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Wesley Parish

For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download here:

http://lod.com/sco

A few things:

1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi 5. The 
floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO 
install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with 
network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:

(a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM 
visibility, and proceed with the install.

(b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.

(c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.

Of course, your experience may differ.


2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:

ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt

As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:

ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/


3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much 
easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more 
driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it, 
other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the 
file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me know 
and I'll put up those images for download too.

Regards,

--corey

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

Corey Lindsly wrote:
>> Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were offering free
>> samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
>>
>> I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Wesley Parish
>
> For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download here:
>
> http://lod.com/sco
>
> A few things:
>
> 1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi 5. The
> floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
> install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
> network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
>
> (a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
> visibility, and proceed with the install.
>
> (b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
>
> (c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
>
> Of course, your experience may differ.
>
>
> 2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
>
> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
>
> As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
>
> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
>
>
> 3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much
> easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more
> driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it,
> other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the
> file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me know
> and I'll put up those images for download too.
>
> Regards,
>
> --corey

I have a note to myself to try an install in PCem later today.

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Arthur Krewat]

I've been trying this myself today, both on ESXi 6.0U2, and I went and 
installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)

I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't 
find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE 
driver.

I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also 
doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's 
implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read 
where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device 
drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI 
SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget 
which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.

Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's 
ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.

I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.

On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as 
IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what happens.

Any pointers?

thanks!
art k.


On 2/27/2017 12:12 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
> Corey Lindsly wrote:
>>> Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were 
>>> offering free
>>> samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
>>>
>>> I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Wesley Parish
>>
>> For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download 
>> here:
>>
>> http://lod.com/sco
>>
>> A few things:
>>
>> 1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi 
>> 5. The
>> floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
>> install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
>> network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
>>
>> (a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
>> visibility, and proceed with the install.
>>
>> (b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
>>
>> (c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
>>
>> Of course, your experience may differ.
>>
>>
>> 2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
>>
>> As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
>>
>>
>> 3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much
>> easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more
>> driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it,
>> other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the
>> file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me 
>> know
>> and I'll put up those images for download too.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --corey
>
> I have a note to myself to try an install in PCem later today.
>

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

Arthur Krewat wrote:
> I've been trying this myself today, both on ESXi 6.0U2, and I went and
> installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)
>
> I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't
> find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE
> driver.
>
> I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also
> doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's
> implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read
> where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device
> drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI
> SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget
> which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.
>
> Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's
> ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.
>
> I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.
>
> On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as
> IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what happens.
>
> Any pointers?
>
> thanks!
> art k.
>
>
> On 2/27/2017 12:12 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>> Corey Lindsly wrote:
>>>> Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were
>>>> offering free
>>>> samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Wesley Parish
>>>
>>> For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download
>>> here:
>>>
>>> http://lod.com/sco
>>>
>>> A few things:
>>>
>>> 1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi
>>> 5. The
>>> floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
>>> install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
>>> network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
>>>
>>> (a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
>>> visibility, and proceed with the install.
>>>
>>> (b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
>>>
>>> (c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
>>>
>>> Of course, your experience may differ.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
>>>
>>> As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much
>>> easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more
>>> driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it,
>>> other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the
>>> file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me
>>> know
>>> and I'll put up those images for download too.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --corey
>>
>> I have a note to myself to try an install in PCem later today.
>>
>

bochs' IDE implementation results in it crashing and in qemu it panic()s 
before loading the installer.

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

Cory Smelosky wrote:
> Arthur Krewat wrote:
>> I've been trying this myself today, both on ESXi 6.0U2, and I went and
>> installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)
>>
>> I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't
>> find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE
>> driver.
>>
>> I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also
>> doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's
>> implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read
>> where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device
>> drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI
>> SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget
>> which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.
>>
>> Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's
>> ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.
>>
>> I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.
>>
>> On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as
>> IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what
>> happens.
>>
>> Any pointers?
>>
>> thanks!
>> art k.
>>
>>
>
> bochs' IDE implementation results in it crashing and in qemu it panic()s
> before loading the installer.

I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Arthur Krewat]

Same result with IDE hard drive on bus 0 master, and CD on bus 0 slave.

Hang loading ide driver.



On 2/27/2017 3:08 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
> Cory Smelosky wrote:
>> bochs' IDE implementation results in it crashing and in qemu it panic()s
>> before loading the installer.
>
> I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.
>

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Arthur Krewat]

Same result with ESXi 4.0, and CDROM on bus 0 slave or master.

Hung on ide driver load.



On 2/27/2017 3:18 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
> Same result with IDE hard drive on bus 0 master, and CD on bus 0 slave.
>
> Hang loading ide driver.
>
>
>
> On 2/27/2017 3:08 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>> Cory Smelosky wrote:
>>> bochs' IDE implementation results in it crashing and in qemu it 
>>> panic()s
>>> before loading the installer.
>>
>> I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.
>>
>

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Michael Kerpan]

Has anyone tried this on Virtualbox? If not, I'll try it out tomorrow
morning.

On Feb 27, 2017 7:20 PM, "Arthur Krewat" <krewat at kilonet.net> wrote:

> Same result with ESXi 4.0, and CDROM on bus 0 slave or master.
>
> Hung on ide driver load.
>
>
>
> On 2/27/2017 3:18 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
>
>> Same result with IDE hard drive on bus 0 master, and CD on bus 0 slave.
>>
>> Hang loading ide driver.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/2017 3:08 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>>
>>> Cory Smelosky wrote:
>>>
>>>> bochs' IDE implementation results in it crashing and in qemu it panic()s
>>>> before loading the installer.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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[Cory Smelosky]

I did. Didn't even get to the installer.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2017, at 17:15, Michael Kerpan <madcrow.maxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone tried this on Virtualbox? If not, I'll try it out tomorrow morning.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2017 7:20 PM, "Arthur Krewat" <krewat at kilonet.net> wrote:
>> Same result with ESXi 4.0, and CDROM on bus 0 slave or master.
>> 
>> Hung on ide driver load.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/27/2017 3:18 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
>>> Same result with IDE hard drive on bus 0 master, and CD on bus 0 slave.
>>> 
>>> Hang loading ide driver.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/27/2017 3:08 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>>>> Cory Smelosky wrote:
>>>>> bochs' IDE implementation results in it crashing and in qemu it panic()s
>>>>> before loading the installer.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe VirtualBox crashed at about the same point as qemu.
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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[Cory Smelosky]

I have had great success with PCem (http://pcem-emulator.co.uk/)



Config:

gameblaster = 0

gus = 0

ssi2001 = 0

voodoo = 0

model = 39

cpu_manufacturer = 0

cpu = 27

cpu_use_dynarec = 1

cpu_waitstates = 0

gfxcard = 15

video_speed = 5

sndcard = 0

cpu_speed = 21

has_fpu = 1

disc_a = Z:\Users\<redacted>\id.ima

disc_b =

mem_size = 262144

cdrom_drive = 200

cdrom_enabled = 1

cdrom_channel = 1

cdrom_path = Z:\Users\<redacted>\SCO-2.1-CD.iso

vid_resize = 0

vid_api = 1

video_fullscreen_scale = 0

video_fullscreen_first = 1

hdc_sectors = 63

hdc_heads = 16

hdc_cylinders = 511

hdc_fn = sco-testing.img

hdd_sectors = 0

hdd_heads = 0

hdd_cylinders = 0

hdd_fn =

hde_sectors = 0

hde_heads = 0

hde_cylinders = 0

hde_fn =

hdf_sectors = 0

hdf_heads = 0

hdf_cylinders = 0

hdf_fn =

drive_a_type = 5

drive_b_type = 7

window_w = 0

window_h = 0

window_x = 0

window_y = 0

window_remember = 0

joystick_type = 0

mouse_type = 0

enable_sync = 1



[Joysticks]

joystick_0_nr = 0

joystick_1_nr = 0



cdrom_channel MUST be 1, and the floppy MUST end with an
extension of .ima


It runs on windows and linux, and happily in wine in macos. Once the
install completes I am confident it will work on bochs et al:
file sco-testing.img

sco-testing.img: DOS/MBR boot sector; partition 4 : ID=0x63, active, start-
CHS (0x0,1,1), end-CHS (0xfe,31,63), startsector 63, 514017 sectors


It's not a special image format, but a raw image.

--

  Cory Smelosky

  b4 at gewt.net




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[Cory Smelosky]

After a ridiculous method of copying the update 1440k at a time, I upgraded to 2.1.3 and now it boots in qemu.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2017, at 19:54, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have had great success with PCem (http://pcem-emulator.co.uk/)
> 
> Config:
> gameblaster = 0
> gus = 0
> ssi2001 = 0
> voodoo = 0
> model = 39
> cpu_manufacturer = 0
> cpu = 27
> cpu_use_dynarec = 1
> cpu_waitstates = 0
> gfxcard = 15
> video_speed = 5
> sndcard = 0
> cpu_speed = 21
> has_fpu = 1
> disc_a = Z:\Users\<redacted>\id.ima
> disc_b =
> mem_size = 262144
> cdrom_drive = 200
> cdrom_enabled = 1
> cdrom_channel = 1
> cdrom_path = Z:\Users\<redacted>\SCO-2.1-CD.iso
> vid_resize = 0
> vid_api = 1
> video_fullscreen_scale = 0
> video_fullscreen_first = 1
> hdc_sectors = 63
> hdc_heads = 16
> hdc_cylinders = 511
> hdc_fn = sco-testing.img
> hdd_sectors = 0
> hdd_heads = 0
> hdd_cylinders = 0
> hdd_fn =
> hde_sectors = 0
> hde_heads = 0
> hde_cylinders = 0
> hde_fn =
> hdf_sectors = 0
> hdf_heads = 0
> hdf_cylinders = 0
> hdf_fn =
> drive_a_type = 5
> drive_b_type = 7
> window_w = 0
> window_h = 0
> window_x = 0
> window_y = 0
> window_remember = 0
> joystick_type = 0
> mouse_type = 0
> enable_sync = 1
> 
> [Joysticks]
> joystick_0_nr = 0
> joystick_1_nr = 0
> 
> cdrom_channel MUST be 1, and the floppy MUST end with an extension of .ima
> 
> It runs on windows and linux, and happily in wine in macos. Once the install completes I am confident it will work on bochs et al:
> file sco-testing.img
> sco-testing.img: DOS/MBR boot sector; partition 4 : ID=0x63, active, start-CHS (0x0,1,1), end-CHS (0xfe,31,63), startsector 63, 514017 sectors
> 
> It's not a special image format, but a raw image.
> --
>   Cory Smelosky
>   b4 at gewt.net
> 
> 
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[Josh Good]

On 2017 Feb 27, 14:59, Arthur Krewat wrote:
> I've been trying this myself today, both on ESXi 6.0U2, and I went and 
> installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)
> 
> I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't 
> find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE 
> driver.
> 
> I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also 
> doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's 
> implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read 
> where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device 
> drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI 
> SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget 
> which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.
> 
> Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's 
> ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.
> 
> I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.
> 
> On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as 
> IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what happens.
> 
> Any pointers?
> 
> thanks!
> art k.
> 
> 
> On 2/27/2017 12:12 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
> >Corey Lindsly wrote:
> >>>Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were 
> >>>offering free
> >>>samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
> >>>
> >>>I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
> >>>
> >>>Thanks
> >>>
> >>>Wesley Parish
> >>
> >>For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download 
> >>here:
> >>
> >>http://lod.com/sco
> >>
> >>A few things:
> >>
> >>1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi 
> >>5. The
> >>floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
> >>install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
> >>network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
> >>
> >>(a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
> >>visibility, and proceed with the install.
> >>
> >>(b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
> >>
> >>(c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.

I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.

The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).

This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img

This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
install process will proceed successfully to completion.

It should work equally well in VirtualBox.

Regards,

-- 
Josh Good

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

That's easier than the way I did it ;)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 14:45, Josh Good <pepe at naleco.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2017 Feb 27, 14:59, Arthur Krewat wrote:
>> I've been trying this myself today, both on ESXi 6.0U2, and I went and 
>> installed ESXi 5.0 as a guest under 6.0U2 :)
>> 
>> I notice that when I put the CD as IDE 1:0 (bus 1, master) it doesn't 
>> find it. When I put it as 0:0 (bus 0, master), it hangs loading the IDE 
>> driver.
>> 
>> I suspect it doesn't know about bus 1, so it doesn't hang but also 
>> doesn't find it, and there's something wrong with either VMware's 
>> implementation of IDE, or SCO's handling of it - or both. I've read 
>> where lots of devices in VMware are just to "perfect" for some device 
>> drivers to deal with. One glaring example was you couldn't use the LSI 
>> SAS driver with Solaris 11. It would either hang or panic, I forget 
>> which. Switch to LSI Parallel SCSI, and it was fine.
>> 
>> Anyway, I suspect that there's something in the IDE driver that's 
>> ignoring bus1, and hanging with VMware's implementation of it.
>> 
>> I'm going to try installing ESXi 4.0 and see what happens.
>> 
>> On another note, it's possible I just need to install the hard drive as 
>> IDE from the get-go, have the CDROM as slave on bus 0 and see what happens.
>> 
>> Any pointers?
>> 
>> thanks!
>> art k.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/27/2017 12:12 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>>> Corey Lindsly wrote:
>>>>> Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were 
>>>>> offering free
>>>>> samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wesley Parish
>>>> 
>>>> For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download 
>>>> here:
>>>> 
>>>> http://lod.com/sco
>>>> 
>>>> A few things:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi 
>>>> 5. The
>>>> floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO
>>>> install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with
>>>> network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
>>>> 
>>>> (a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM
>>>> visibility, and proceed with the install.
>>>> 
>>>> (b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
>>>> 
>>>> (c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
> 
> I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
> 
> The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
> by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
> as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
> using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
> 
> This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
> problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
> when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
> load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
> diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
> 
> This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
> install process will proceed successfully to completion.
> 
> It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Josh Good
> 

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Arthur Krewat]

In ESXi 5.0, using the updated HBA driver diskette, I got to this point 
and it locked up apparently (see below). Gotta love Y2K



On 3/1/2017 5:45 PM, Josh Good wrote:
> I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
> The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
> by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
> as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
> using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
>
> This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
> problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
> when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
> load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
> diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
>
> This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
> install process will proceed successfully to completion.
>
> It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
>
> Regards,
>

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[Cory Smelosky]

Erase the year and replace it with 99 and you can proceed. Or at least I could...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 15:06, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net> wrote:
> 
> In ESXi 5.0, using the updated HBA driver diskette, I got to this point and it locked up apparently (see below). Gotta love Y2K
> 
> <nhcellemnelfkmhb.png>
> 
>> On 3/1/2017 5:45 PM, Josh Good wrote:
>> I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
>> The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
>> by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
>> as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
>> using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
>> 
>> This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
>> problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
>> when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
>> load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
>> diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
>> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
>> 
>> This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
>> install process will proceed successfully to completion.
>> 
>> It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
> 
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[Arthur Krewat]

LOL - I beat you to it :) Just did that, and it's going now.



On 3/1/2017 6:07 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
> Erase the year and replace it with 99 and you can proceed. Or at least 
> I could...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 1, 2017, at 15:06, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net 
> <mailto:krewat at kilonet.net>> wrote:
>
>> In ESXi 5.0, using the updated HBA driver diskette, I got to this 
>> point and it locked up apparently (see below). Gotta love Y2K
>>
>> <nhcellemnelfkmhb.png>
>>
>> On 3/1/2017 5:45 PM, Josh Good wrote:
>>> I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
>>> The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
>>> by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
>>> as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
>>> using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
>>>
>>> This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
>>> problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
>>> when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
>>> load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
>>> diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
>>> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
>>>
>>> This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
>>> install process will proceed successfully to completion.
>>>
>>> It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>

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[Arthur Krewat]

And now, get a kernel build error.

Looking at it a bit further in a second.


On 3/1/2017 6:13 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote:
> LOL - I beat you to it :) Just did that, and it's going now.
>
>
>
> On 3/1/2017 6:07 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>> Erase the year and replace it with 99 and you can proceed. Or at 
>> least I could...
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2017, at 15:06, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net 
>> <mailto:krewat at kilonet.net>> wrote:
>>
>>> In ESXi 5.0, using the updated HBA driver diskette, I got to this 
>>> point and it locked up apparently (see below). Gotta love Y2K
>>>
>>> <nhcellemnelfkmhb.png>
>>>
>>> On 3/1/2017 5:45 PM, Josh Good wrote:
>>>> I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
>>>> The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
>>>> by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
>>>> as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
>>>> using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
>>>>
>>>> This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
>>>> problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
>>>> when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
>>>> load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
>>>> diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
>>>> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
>>>>
>>>> This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
>>>> install process will proceed successfully to completion.
>>>>
>>>> It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>
>

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[Corey Lindsly]

> I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
> 
> The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
> by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
> as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
> using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
> 
> This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
> problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
> when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
> load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
> diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
> 
> This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
> install process will proceed successfully to completion.
> 
> It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Josh Good
> 

Good stuff. Thanks. I was able to do the install in ESXi 5 with no 
problems using this information. Has anyone gotten the networking setup? 
There is an Intel PRO/1000 NIC driver package on the SCO site (ptf4016c) 
but it is for UW2.1.3 only and I was not able to get it to go. Sadly, the 
original 2.1 package ptf4016a appears to be gone. I suppose the next step 
would be to run through the updates from 2.1 to 2.1.3 unless someone else 
can share a simpler way to bring up a NIC.

--corey

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Josh Good]

On 2017 Mar  2, 11:56, Corey Lindsly wrote:
> 
> > I got it to install successfully, in VMware Server 1.0.2.
> > 
> > The solution is to boot normally with the "id.dd" floppy image provided
> > by Corey Lindsly, with the ISO image also provided by Corey configured
> > as IDE 0:1 (first channel, slave), and with a virtual IDE disk (I'm
> > using 8 GB of size) as 0:0 (first channel, master).
> > 
> > This setup leads to the already known IDE driver hanging. It's a
> > problem with the IDE driver provided by SCO with UnixWare 2.1. So,
> > when the install process asks whether you want to use a "HBA diskette",
> > load into your PC emulator's virtual floppy drive the updated "HBA
> > diskette" image provided by SCO for UnixWare 2.1.3, which is here:
> > ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd213/hba213.img
> > 
> > This will stop the UnixWare 2.1 IDE driver from hanging, and the
> > install process will proceed successfully to completion.
> > 
> > It should work equally well in VirtualBox.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > -- 
> > Josh Good
> > 
> 
> Good stuff. Thanks. I was able to do the install in ESXi 5 with no 
> problems using this information. Has anyone gotten the networking setup? 
> There is an Intel PRO/1000 NIC driver package on the SCO site (ptf4016c) 
> but it is for UW2.1.3 only and I was not able to get it to go. Sadly, the 
> original 2.1 package ptf4016a appears to be gone. I suppose the next step 
> would be to run through the updates from 2.1 to 2.1.3 unless someone else 
> can share a simpler way to bring up a NIC.

I have networking up and running in UnixWare 2.1, on VMware Server 1.0.

VMware Server 1.0 virtualizes the "AMD PCNet" PCI ethernet card, and
UnixWare 2.1 has built-in drivers for it.

Can the virtualization software you are using offer an emulated "AMD
PCNet" PCI ethernet card to the virtual machine where you are running
UnixWare 2.1?

I attach these screenshots for your reference:

https://s29.postimg.org/rlnbqb687/screenshot_01_network_driver.png
https://s29.postimg.org/cw2hlt3yf/screenshot_02_network_driver.png
https://s29.postimg.org/3pk6yiypz/screenshot_03_network_driver.png
https://s29.postimg.org/qfjbrihxj/screenshot_04_booting.png
https://s29.postimg.org/li5r6efyf/screenshot_05_booting.png
https://s29.postimg.org/z0cnios3r/screenshot_06_X11.png
https://s29.postimg.org/g1n3c0mkn/screenshot_07_login.png

And now, it would be nice to have SSHd running. According to this post,
it's doable:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.security.ssh/da7A-ma74zs

Does anyone volunteer to compile a package for SSHd in UnixWare 2.1,
and share it?

Regards,

-- 
Josh Good

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Arthur Krewat]

Install successful on VMware ESXi 6.0u2

IDE hard drive, 2GB, on IDE bus 0, master (0:1)
CD drive on IDE bus 0, slave (0:1)

Network working using AMD-PCNET (VMware flexible adapter)

Same procedure as already posted, using HBA213 floppy image.

Cool stuff.

Side note: I tried a Buslogic SCSI adapter and 2GB hard drive, but after 
the install was complete, it hung after reboot, maybe it didn't like the 
IRQ the card was assigned to:


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[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Henry Bent]

I almost hate to bring this up at this point, but it seems worthwhile - are
SCO products now considered legal to distribute?  Or just Novell?  I had
thought not, but that may well be an outdated understanding of the
situation.

-Henry

On 3 March 2017 at 11:22, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net> wrote:

> Install successful on VMware ESXi 6.0u2
>
> IDE hard drive, 2GB, on IDE bus 0, master (0:1)
> CD drive on IDE bus 0, slave (0:1)
>
> Network working using AMD-PCNET (VMware flexible adapter)
>
> Same procedure as already posted, using HBA213 floppy image.
>
> Cool stuff.
>
> Side note: I tried a Buslogic SCSI adapter and 2GB hard drive, but after
> the install was complete, it hung after reboot, maybe it didn't like the
> IRQ the card was assigned to:
>
>
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[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 08:22, Arthur Krewat wrote:

> Install successful on VMware ESXi 6.0u2

> 

>  IDE hard drive, 2GB, on IDE bus 0, master (0:1)

>  CD drive on IDE bus 0, slave (0:1)

> 

>  Network working using AMD-PCNET (VMware flexible adapter)

> 

>  Same procedure as already posted, using HBA213 floppy image.

> 

>  Cool stuff.

> 

>  Side note: I tried a Buslogic SCSI adapter and 2GB hard drive, but
>  after the install was complete, it hung after reboot, maybe it didn't
>  like the IRQ the card was assigned to:
> 

>  

>  



Time to attempt to migrate the qemu VM to vmware! ;)



--

  Cory Smelosky

  b4 at gewt.net


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[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

What VM hardware version?  It's not working for me w/ flexible or e1000.




On Fri, Mar 3, 2017, at 08:22, Arthur Krewat wrote:

> Install successful on VMware ESXi 6.0u2

> 

>  IDE hard drive, 2GB, on IDE bus 0, master (0:1)

>  CD drive on IDE bus 0, slave (0:1)

> 

>  Network working using AMD-PCNET (VMware flexible adapter)

> 

>  Same procedure as already posted, using HBA213 floppy image.

> 

>  Cool stuff.

> 

>  Side note: I tried a Buslogic SCSI adapter and 2GB hard drive, but
>  after the install was complete, it hung after reboot, maybe it didn't
>  like the IRQ the card was assigned to:
> 

>  

>  



--

  Cory Smelosky

  b4 at gewt.net




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[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, at 08:49, Corey Lindsly wrote:
> (a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM 
> visibility, and proceed with the install.
> 
> (b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
> 
> (c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
> 
> Of course, your experience may differ.
> 
> 
> 2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
> 
> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
> 
> As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
> 
> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
> 
> 
> 3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much 
> easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more 
> driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it, 
> other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the 
> file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me know 
> and I'll put up those images for download too.
> 

I would grab it from Xinuous' website but I seem to have forgotten what
the hell I provided for "first phone number"....so can't log in.

> Regards,
> 
> --corey


-- 
  Cory Smelosky
  b4 at gewt.net

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Cory Smelosky]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017, at 18:52, Cory Smelosky wrote:
> 
> I would grab it from Xinuous' website but I seem to have forgotten what
> the hell I provided for "first phone number"....so can't log in.
> 

I found the password, at least...phone number on file is still a mystery
however.

Seems you just need an account to grab 5...I have no support contract.

> > Regards,
> > 
> > --corey
> 
> 
> -- 
>   Cory Smelosky
>   b4 at gewt.net


-- 
  Cory Smelosky
  b4 at gewt.net

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Josh Good]

On 2017 Feb 27, 08:49, Corey Lindsly wrote:
> > 
> > Count me in. I put my hand up for a copy of SCO when they were offering free
> > samplers in the early 2000s, but never heard back from them.
> > 
> > I wanted to compare it with Linux ...
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Wesley Parish
> 
> For anyone interested, the SCO 2.1 images are available for download here:
> 
> http://lod.com/sco
> 
> A few things:
> 
> 1. I am having some difficulty getting it to install in VMWare ESXi 5. The 
> floppy image boots, and I get some way into the install process, but SCO 
> install does not see the virtual CD-ROM drive. Thus, I'm presented with 
> network install options only. At this point, there are a few options:
> 
> (a) Track down the driver and/or VMWare settings to fix the CD-ROM 
> visibility, and proceed with the install.
> 
> (b) Set up a SCO network install server, and proceed.
> 
> (c) Try the install on legacy physical hardware instead.
> 
> Of course, your experience may differ.
> 
> 
> 2. There's actually an installation guide available for this OS here:
> 
> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/upd211/eng211.txt
> 
> As well as a lot of driver updates and other good stuff:
> 
> ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
> 
> 
> 3. Anyone who wants to try SCO for the first time may find 5.0.7 a much 
> easier go. It will install directly from CD in VMWare, and there is more 
> driver support for it. To me, it has a very "pure" UNIX feel to it, 
> other than the gratuitous and absurd use of symbolic links all over the 
> file system. If you're interested in trying-out that version, let me know 
> and I'll put up those images for download too.

Well, the subject says "SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0", but what you call
"SCO 2.1" and for which you link updates at ftp://ftp.sco.com/pub/UW21/
is UnixWare, which is a very different beast.

SCO OpenDesktop (and SCO OpenServer 5.0.7 that you mention) are SysVR3
based (they are, in fact, the evolution of Microsoft Xenix). Those don't
support at-runtime loadable kernel modules (only at-bootime loadable
kernel modules are supported).

UnixWare, on the other hand, is SysVR4 based, and comes directly from
Novell, who bought it from USL, who bought it from AT&T.

UnixWare 2.1 is the last version of UnixWare before SCO bundled their
"scoadmin" tool with it. UnixWare 2.1.1 also is officially "Unix-95"
certified. UnixWare 2.1 is probably the purest UNIX SysVR4 to be run
on a PC/386, and has very little in common with the archaic SysVR3-based
OpenDesktop/OpenServer releases from SCO.

Regards,

-- 
Josh Good

[TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0

[Rudi Blom]

Wasn't the default FS type S51K? Limitations like 14 chars directory
names only. No symbolic link ?

>Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:13:25 -0500
>From: Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net>
>To: Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net>, Jason Stevens
>        <jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com>, tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
>Subject: Re: [TUHS] SCO OpenDesktop 386 2.0.0
>Message-ID: <f5a1d513-3cc1-6a4d-64a3-669b49d7226f at kilonet.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
>What filesystem type does it use for root/boot/whatever?
>
>Install operating system "X" that supports that filesystem type in the
>virtual guest, create a new disk, newfs/mkfs it, arrange the bits from
>the tape, take the newly-assembled disk and move to another VM and try
>to boot it.
>
>Not remembering anything about how SVR3.2 boots (I think that's what
>Opendesktop is?) that's the end of my help on the subject :)