From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4c91b6d2 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 17:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3EFFC9BA45; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 03:23:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFF393D21; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 03:23:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F37C593D21; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 03:23:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp-out-3.mxes.net (smtp-out-3.mxes.net [198.205.123.68]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AA7193D07 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 03:23:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: from Customer-MUA (mua.mxes.net [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CCB527397; Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Ronald Natalie In-Reply-To: <201909151617.x8FGHusM008290@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:23:30 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201909132024.x8DKObEP013266@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <463d5cc4-9bef-9ac3-a680-a5161d664dc1@aueb.gr> <20190913221345.GA16129@minnie.tuhs.org> <20190914020240.GO2046@mcvoy.com> <20190914024433.GA19193@minnie.tuhs.org> <2e84c4d0-5239-b223-856d-00aacf8d3028@andrewnesbit.org> <201909150654.x8F6sChG021185@freefriends.org> <201909151617.x8FGHusM008290@darkstar.fourwinds.com> To: Jon Steinhart X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Sent-To: Subject: Re: [TUHS] earliest Unix roff X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" ROFF is the simplest of the runoff programs but is utterly frozen. I started with the -ms macro package so I had fondness for it, but = switched to -mm over time. I had done some work (after not being = able to pry a version Dennis Mumaugh had written out of the agency) on = putting classification marking and formatting in it. I had restyled = it to make the output look like the standard IBM formatting when we were = doing UNIX work under contract for IBM. At Hopkins, we had a small furor when Mike (Michael John) Muuss wrote = his own macro package and installed it as tmac.jm (invoked by the -mjm = option). This led to lots of jokes about renaming programs and options = after various users.