From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] screen editors
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:40:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D192F5A5-2A67-413C-8F5C-FCF195151E4F@bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200109012830.GC16808@mcvoy.com>
On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 05:08:59PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 4:22 PM Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, Chet Ramey wrote:
>>>
>>>>> That's a real big vi in RHL.
>>>>
>>>> It's vim.
>>>
>>> It's also VIM on the Mac.
>>>
>>
>> Nvi is also interesting and 1/10th the size of vim. It's also the FreeBSD
>> default for vi.
>
> I was gonna stay out of this thread (it has the feel of old folks somehow)
> but 2 comments:
>
> Keith did nvi (I can't remember why? licensing or something) and he did
> a pretty faithful bug for bug compatible job. I've always wondered why.
> I like Keith but it seemed like a waste. There were other people taking
> vi forward, elvis, xvi (I hacked the crap out of that one, made it mmap
> the file and had a whole string library that treated \n like NULL) and
> I think vim was coming along. So doing a compat vi felt like a step
> backward for me.
>
> For all the vim haters, come on. Vim is awesome, it gave me the one
> thing that I wanted from emacs, multiple windows. I use that all the
> time. It's got piles of stuff that I don't use, probably should, but
> it is every bit as good of a vi as the original and then it added more.
> I'm super grateful that vim came along.
The first thing I do on a new machine is to install nvi. Very grateful to
Keith Bostic for implementing it. I do use multiple windows — only
horizontal splits but that is good enough for me as all my terminal
windows are 80 chars wide. Not a vim hater but never saw the need.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-01-09 1:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-08 9:46 Rudi Blom
2020-01-08 14:15 ` Chet Ramey
2020-01-08 15:15 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-01-08 15:42 ` Steve Mynott
[not found] ` <68b3d6df-94f6-625d-39bf-6149b4c177c9@andrewnesbit.org>
2020-01-08 20:56 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-01-08 23:21 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-01-09 0:08 ` Warner Losh
2020-01-09 1:28 ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-09 1:40 ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2020-01-09 2:04 ` Clem Cole
2020-01-09 2:07 ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-09 2:12 ` Clem Cole
2020-01-09 2:59 ` Bakul Shah
2020-01-09 3:08 ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-09 3:43 ` Bakul Shah
2020-01-09 3:27 ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-01-09 3:34 ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-09 3:49 ` Bakul Shah
2020-01-09 3:55 ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-01-09 5:27 ` Bakul Shah
2020-01-09 4:23 ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-09 15:54 ` Clem Cole
2020-01-09 17:21 ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-09 17:30 ` Warner Losh
2020-01-09 17:45 ` [TUHS] screen editors and beyond Jon Steinhart
2020-01-09 17:56 ` [TUHS] screen editors Bakul Shah
2020-01-18 2:11 ` Michael Parson
2020-01-09 18:53 ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-09 19:01 ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-09 19:02 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-01-09 19:19 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-01-09 20:20 ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-01-18 2:06 ` Michael Parson
2020-01-18 3:13 ` Clem Cole
2020-01-18 3:44 ` Kurt H Maier
2020-01-18 15:37 ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-18 22:11 ` markus schnalke
2020-01-09 2:14 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-01-09 2:48 ` Chet Ramey
2020-01-09 9:05 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-01-08 15:11 ` Nemo Nusquam
2020-01-08 15:37 ` Henry Bent
2020-01-18 14:22 ` Michael Parson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-01-26 20:32 [TUHS] Screen editors Paul Ruizendaal
2020-01-26 23:14 ` Thomas Paulsen
[not found] <20200120155946.169b39e0.ref@sagittariusa.cnb.csic.es>
2020-01-20 14:59 ` Jose R. Valverde via TUHS
2020-01-20 16:07 ` Toby Thain
2020-01-20 16:20 ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-31 18:21 ` Jose R. Valverde via TUHS
2020-01-29 22:24 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-01-29 22:33 ` Larry McVoy
2020-02-07 23:05 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-02-07 23:54 ` Richard Salz
2020-02-08 3:11 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-02-08 3:38 ` Ronald Natalie
2020-02-08 0:05 ` Bakul Shah
2020-01-29 23:00 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-01-26 18:28 ` arnold
2020-01-26 18:33 ` Adam Thornton
2020-01-26 18:36 ` arnold
2020-01-26 18:40 ` arnold
2020-01-26 19:11 ` Adam Thornton
2020-01-26 19:40 ` Jon Forrest
2020-01-26 20:08 ` Chet Ramey
2020-01-09 21:46 [TUHS] screen editors Norman Wilson
2020-01-09 22:10 ` Brantley Coile
2020-01-08 7:39 Thomas Paulsen
2020-01-08 15:58 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-01-08 23:41 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-01-09 1:43 ` Nemo Nusquam
2020-01-08 21:49 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-01-08 22:01 ` Clem Cole
2020-01-17 23:38 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-01-18 0:07 ` Ryan Casalino
2020-01-18 23:02 ` greg travis
2020-01-10 8:13 ` markus schnalke
2020-01-10 8:17 ` U'll Be King of the Stars
2020-01-11 19:58 ` markus schnalke
2020-01-11 20:54 ` Derek Fawcus
2020-01-11 21:27 ` Henry Bent
2020-02-04 8:40 ` Sijmen J. Mulder
2020-01-10 15:31 ` Nemo Nusquam
2020-01-10 16:04 ` Clem Cole
2020-01-10 17:10 ` Dan Cross
2020-01-10 17:18 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-01-18 1:55 ` Michael Parson
2020-01-10 15:58 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-01-07 19:57 Doug McIlroy
2020-01-07 20:17 ` Brantley Coile
2020-01-07 20:47 ` Bakul Shah
2020-01-07 2:31 Doug McIlroy
2020-01-07 2:37 ` Brantley Coile
2020-01-07 2:38 ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-07 16:30 ` arnold
2020-01-07 16:38 ` Richard Salz
2020-01-07 18:32 ` Dan Cross
2020-01-07 19:14 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-01-09 5:01 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2020-01-10 8:16 ` ricercar
2020-01-08 0:10 ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-17 22:06 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-01-08 18:30 ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-01-08 21:41 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-01-09 8:30 ` arnold
2020-01-07 6:19 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-01-07 8:24 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-01-07 20:44 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-01-08 15:29 ` Steve Mynott
2020-01-08 23:31 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-01-07 9:43 ` ullbeking
2020-01-07 14:53 ` Dan Cross
2020-01-07 19:35 ` Rodrigo G. López
2020-01-08 5:13 ` Mark van Atten
2020-01-07 15:03 ` Clem Cole
2020-01-07 15:50 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-01-07 20:45 ` Chet Ramey
2020-01-07 21:20 ` Derek Fawcus
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