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From: Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Cc: Paul Ruizendaal <pnr@planet.nl>,
	The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: DG UNIX History
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 07:48:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D7F9B8CC-16FD-47C1-95B6-1D66B9B2B0ED@iitbombay.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221115151133.GL16293@mcvoy.com>

On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 01:03:05AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>> P.S.  I remember back in the day when I was engaging in a friendly
>> competition with a FreeBSD hacker on improving the serial driver for
>> the 8250 chip (with no FIFO's!), and I shared with him my idea of
>> using a pair of ring buffers that would get flipped back and forth
>> between the interrupt handler and the tty "bottom-half" (read:
>> software interrupt) handler, and I was told that clists were handed
>> down from Olympus by the AT&T/Unix Gods and he could never get that
>> kind of change into the FreeBSD tty layer.  Of course, I was free to
>> make all of the radical changes to Linux's tty layer --- and I did,
>> all in the name of the number of 115kbaud connections that could be
>> handled on a single 40 MHz 386 processor...
> 
> I remember being pleasantly surprised that Linus/Linux was open to 
> that sort of change.  I get why the traditional Unix shops resisted
> be wacks like that but they went too far and it prevented good work.
> 
> Linux seemed far more willing to realize that they had it wrong and
> there was a better way.  That was refreshing.
> 
> Of course they got beat up for it with "Linux is stable/compatible".

At Fortune Systems Dave Yost was able to achieve full-duplex 9600
baud speed on up to 5 ports in V7 Unix without changing the clist
design. This on a 5.6Mhz machine (with 4 cycle memory). The trick
was to specialize interrupt handlers for each port.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-15 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-14 22:11 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-11-14 22:31 ` Clem Cole
2022-11-14 23:54   ` Warner Losh
2022-11-15  6:03     ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-11-15 15:11       ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-15 15:48         ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2022-11-15 17:47       ` Warner Losh
2022-11-15  1:21   ` Stuff Received
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-11-14 11:44 arnold
2022-11-12 15:54 [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2022-11-12 16:09 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 16:52 ` arnold
2022-11-12 17:05   ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 17:09   ` Miod Vallat
2022-11-12 17:12     ` Warner Losh
2022-11-12 17:39     ` arnold
2022-11-12 17:13   ` David Barto
2022-11-12 17:37   ` Brad Spencer
2022-11-12 18:04   ` Clem Cole
2022-11-12 18:36     ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 19:36       ` Clem Cole
2022-11-13  1:56         ` Larry McVoy
2022-11-12 19:16 ` Dave Horsfall
2022-11-12 19:31   ` Clem Cole

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