From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 5adf2036 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 07:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A2413A1A93; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:38:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4579FA1A2C; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:37:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 566E1A1A1F; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:37:45 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 2052 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:37:44 AEST Received: from bagheera.alchemistowl.org (bagheera.alchemistowl.org [185.15.93.23]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6B88A1A1D for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:37:44 +1000 (AEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bagheera.alchemistowl.org Received: from f.1.2.1.2.0.a.2.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch (f.1.2.1.2.0.a.2.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch [IPv6:2a02:121f:224:10:146c:e481:9dd0:770f] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by bagheera.alchemistowl.org (8.16.0.21/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w7T736cG000817 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 29 Aug 2018 07:03:07 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Arrigo Triulzi In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:03:05 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1535123616.1824656.1485063544.08BED1A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20180828003057.GA317@mcvoy.com> <201808280601.w7S61oLM030628@freefriends.org> To: Dave Horsfall X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Research UNIX on the AT&T 3B2? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 29 Aug 2018, at 03:06, Dave Horsfall wrote: > Stuff I write on FreeBSD pretty much works on my Mac (the latter has = mo serial ports, and thus uses a dodgy USB/serial cable with an = equally-dodgy driver that hangs the system to the point of requiring a = *power cycle*). I=E2=80=99m glad I=E2=80=99m not the only one who has infinite problems = with these dongles. I have a sacred old laptop running OpenBSD precisely = to get serial consoles working as a) it has an RS-232 port and b) the = drivers are sane. I have a USB-serial dongle which on Mac, once the = driver is installed, creates a device called = /dev/cu.Bluetooth-Serial-SiLo. Took me an eternity to figure out it was = that because the docs had nothing about which device file it actually = created and, well, considering it is a physical cable I had eliminated = Bluetooth to begin with=E2=80=A6 I confess to looking at the creation = date on the device file and then saying =E2=80=9Cnaah, it cannot be=E2=80=A6= oh=E2=80=A6 it is=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D I do miss SunOS too - because of a single user with great powers we had = to upgrade a SparcStation 10 to Solaris back in 1994 and the performance = took an instant nosedive. Not to mention the hours spent getting tools = to make it actually work (i.e. 99% of the GNU project). Arrigo