From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6156 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2023 19:30:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 Jun 2023 19:30:38 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA03424F4; Tue, 6 Jun 2023 05:30:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from oclsc.com (oclsc.com [206.248.137.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2024424F0 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2023 05:30:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by oclsc.org id 26BED4F787; Mon, 5 Jun 2023 15:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by oclsc.org id E84D6640CDB; Mon, 5 Jun 2023 15:30:23 -0400 (EDT) To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 15:30:23 -0400 (EDT) From: norman@oclsc.org (Norman Wilson) Message-ID-Hash: MYXMVXXPGRGR5NKFTB54FFDHIDJBZFAT X-Message-ID-Hash: MYXMVXXPGRGR5NKFTB54FFDHIDJBZFAT X-MailFrom: norman@oclsc.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: CB-UNIX dsw(1l) Page from PDP-7? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Rather an aside, but the alt.sysadmin.recovery message referenced in https://www.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/1999-November/001203.html chimes interesting chords for me. If you care only about technical stuff, you should skip to your next e-mail message now. On one hand, the doubly-embedded net.unix-wizards message from Dennis, dated 1984-12-08, containing the original dsw.s: that was posted a few months after I joined Bell Labs, and may even have been partly my fault. 1984 was the nominal 15th anniversary of UNIX; as a member of the steering committee of the recently-formed UNIX* Special Interest Group in US DECUS, I convinced Dennis to attend the Fall 1984 Symposium, in Anaheim in early December, as part of a celebration. As another part, I made copies of the V1-V7 manuals in the UNIX Room and had them shipped out so people could leaf through the history. I think Dennis dug out the PDP-7 source-code books as a contribution to that effort; I am all but certain we brought copies of those too. Of course I had the copies returned not to the Labs but to my home address. I still have them, now on a shelf in my home office. A good friend offered to take care of shipping them back to New Jersey, of course making her own copies in return. I also recall that the conference hotel happened to give me room 127. I offered to swap with Dennis, since he deserved that number more than I did (the extra digit had already been prepended before I joined) but he cheerfully declined. On the other hand--not as historic except to me--the author of the singly-embedded 1999-11-23 alt.sysadmin.recovery message is now (and has for some years been) a co-worker and a good friend. So this single 1999 TUHS posting touches points near both the beginning and the end (so far) of my career, and two different groups of smart people who are fun to work with. Norman Wilson Toronto ON