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[64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:53:11 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|cmhanson@eschatologist.net X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Duck-Gusty: 3e8ff0b635ded085_1579643590953_1008455571 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1579643590953:2167829332 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1579643590953 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158E280865; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:53:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=eschatologist.net; h= content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject :date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; s= eschatologist.net; bh=yQEQw1YCvZYHedEsrTCobXMq5ec=; b=ya1ZpxEBZr ZfPOZqfFPn8vhWm6xdwheV9dzLKNoU9Gs65uxaMBV1JcUv1/Ia+sDGmVzdH2T+ME 3fYGhekTMSvXoYeMn/OV5eom1mjBnNqSzDABRRQDnk0sqmwybSkmS/hvenIg4CMG YnUykYjIZwpxWgbXTSBUMroICMj74OQok= Received: from [10.1.10.188] (c-76-126-113-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.126.113.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cmhanson@eschatologist.net) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a60.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F3B78080C; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:53:04 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a60 From: Chris Hanson Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:52:59 -0800 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: Dan Cross X-Mailer: iPad Mail (17C54) X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrudekgdduheefucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurheptgfghfggufffkfhfjgfvofesthhqmhdthhdtjeenucfhrhhomhepvehhrhhishcujfgrnhhsohhnuceotghmhhgrnhhsohhnsegvshgthhgrthholhhoghhishhtrdhnvghtqeenucfkphepjeeirdduvdeirdduudefrddugeegnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghloheplgdutddruddruddtrddukeekngdpihhnvghtpeejiedruddviedruddufedrudeggedprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthhepvehhrhhishcujfgrnhhsohhnuceotghmhhgrnhhsohhnsegvshgthhgrthholhhoghhishhtrdhnvghtqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegtmhhhrghnshhonhesvghstghhrghtohhlohhgihhsthdrnhgvthdpnhhrtghpthhtohepphgvthgvsehnohhmrggulhhoghhitgdrohhrgh Subject: Re: [TUHS] Apollo Domain/OS X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" My understanding is that there=E2=80=99s a direct line from MULTICS to Prime= to Apollo, in that Apollo was founded by former Prime folks who took their p= hilosophy with them. Apollo=E2=80=99s operating system (Aegis, Domain, Domain/OS) had a lot of go= od and interesting ideas and was quite influential despite the relatively sm= all number of people who used it. A lot of what we take for granted today in= distributed computing came via Apollo more than anywhere else, as Apollo us= ers and alumni took what they learned to other systems. =E2=80=94 Chris