From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32137 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2021 22:31:05 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Jan 2021 22:31:05 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4A0019C7C6; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 08:31:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877209C78D; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 08:30:45 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=cfcl.com header.i=@cfcl.com header.b="US9kUsgH"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F19329C78D; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 08:30:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pg1-f182.google.com (mail-pg1-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A4E99C5FD for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 08:30:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pg1-f182.google.com with SMTP id n25so7695426pgb.0 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 14:30:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cfcl.com; s=google; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=hZjr37zfsYq1OTDj9IDHnb8Wt9eZwxV045xy7NdaEFA=; b=US9kUsgHRzjPF0zHjSSiOC0xtLYCdyX+KI8gbvrDQJZAe8shPcSOW0T0KGy+MmMtmQ aYspK9OasDRcjWsHj6gnczwXszaVZJIl2w2XqqvltIHh77k5JwnqbiDsn8nfISfzFwP4 EiZyo96velANbisNg7fcz8voRtARZ1uE/Uyn2qQ37hm1vE9iqpeUpCYzl+54CGoAp/mh 64yoPsmAcDqyTcAeJ9dhhE7L/PqGj5MwHZK4ZGmwE/xMk28mRZ+s3BCZB2ICRKxQxpLg rIBuNldDGR+IyeDDxZ+AI1DsYUnC+tk9UySQMJ9/SVFukv1IRL0BzOIlwrYmaraZRBe2 Xrhg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=hZjr37zfsYq1OTDj9IDHnb8Wt9eZwxV045xy7NdaEFA=; b=kV8UB+4A2fJVtCfhU5ttpgwqNh9EUGoDv9WJFpsJ7dQaIl6/1gpS4S+TyXP2G9HGnA 9DNGgH5HixbQWCjg2tMzpbisoin26qp8k/vNGhrC6ILJ3cBOwYxi2Gf4SSSp4SMGwv6P /1pX/MsNK3QliAfsc7kQIdNvf/rcuyDRoJ9bBoyp8nx46h2TErpjemQRky8+kAnVEbZU qf/7V5CZSw/gATMYVSuOhG2DKeLgxJAUv1kJg1NRBNFYiT5xOZwHBf6+b7J2mh6+Z+ey sQ7KQ+w8Z9cazwkCToKuQhLEd7mtGCzYC9+8jARLWvpsTxTbsY47zw3ktEnzeyS04HYZ 7Yig== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532/Fc87QL1Zd1iZIRTtaDE58AEnvI2e+SxrOq1bTKolS5rNGdnx PLtztjomYaO+gXyGxeqz1SZ4QL+5X3FgnA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz0ZD5zis+BLq3S9M94I7YPjeRbBxznDmBZN7O5rD88F8Zuwd/8b6YmWR43L+ERWEnbih1fxw== X-Received: by 2002:a63:551d:: with SMTP id j29mr1345727pgb.115.1611527442511; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 14:30:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from spot.hitronhub.home (24-113-88-45.wavecable.com. [24.113.88.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i1sm15541101pfb.54.2021.01.24.14.30.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Jan 2021 14:30:41 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) From: Rich Morin In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 14:30:41 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: TUHS main list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Subject: Re: [TUHS] tangential unix question: whatever happened to NeWS? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Yes and no. I actually had JavaScript (which I _knew_ that Brendan Eich = wrote; sigh) in mind. JavaScript, like NeWS, handles a wide range of = display and interaction issues. Of course, it sits on top of HTTP, but = that's just a detail (:-). -r > On Jan 24, 2021, at 13:10, Ronald Natalie wrote: >=20 >> Too bad. X won (at least in Unixish systems) and, as Rob Pike put = it: Sometimes when you fill a vacuum, it still sucks. Curiously, = JavaScript (another Gosling effort) is in some ways the modern version = of NeWS... >>=20 >>=20 > You mean Java. JavaScript is a different language that Brendan Eich = at Netscape wrote for their browser.