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From: bakul@bitblocks.com (Bakul Shah)
Subject: [TUHS] Another "craft" discussion topic - mindless tool proliferation
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:18:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1526B80-9F6F-47FC-9116-6C8598EBB5A9@bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170920024733.GG25650@mcvoy.com>

I used *roff for man pages. Used to use man pages as brief
functional specs for new commands. Worked very well.  Even
prior to 1985 I usually just kept plain text documents in a
readable format (not unlike "markdown". Though, rather than
# section, ## subsect I used separate ==== and --- lines).
Most of my notes start out in that form and longer ones may
get converted to latex files. But it's nice to have choices! 

BTW, Bitkeeper document looks pretty decent.

> On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, markdown didn't exist at the time I did webroff and I like, still
> like, roff.  It says what you want more than how you want to do it.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 07:34:00PM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote:
>> These days I use the markdown format more and more as it is easier and
>> more readable than troff/LaTeX and good enough for this sort of documentation.
>> There is even LaTeX package for it! 
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So there are links in that that don't work, that user guide is really old,
>>> but you should be able to get the idea.  If people bitch about the links
>>> that don't work I'll see if I can fix them.
>>> 
>>> The skinning is in the Html file.
>>> 
>>>> Here's an example:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/bkdocs/UG/
>>>> 
>>>> is the source, you can look at those files, they are nroff -ms source,
>>>> and then look at 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/bkdocs/UG/tmp
>>>> 
>>>> and you'll see the web version of the docs.  Which is pretty useful.
>>>> You've got all the .NH 1 headers in the table of contents down the
>>>> left side, and when you click one of them it shows you the .NH 2,
>>>> .NH 3 etc headers for just that section.
>>>> 
>>>> And if you go to
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/bkdocs/UG/tmp/map.html
>>>> 
>>>> you can get html versions of any .NH 1 section, or the entire thing as one
>>>> page.
>>>> 
>>>> It's a ~1700 line perl program (perl 4ish) and it has some ability to skin
>>>> the content.  Source in http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/bkdocs/UG/webroff
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> ---
>>> Larry McVoy                     lm at mcvoy.com             http://www.mcvoy.com/lm 
> 
> -- 
> ---
> Larry McVoy            	     lm at mcvoy.com             http://www.mcvoy.com/lm 



  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-20  6:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-19 17:01 Jon Steinhart
2017-09-19 17:05 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-19 20:31   ` Pete Turnbull
2017-09-19 20:37     ` Warner Losh
2017-09-19 23:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-20  0:47   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-20  1:02     ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20  1:09       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-20  1:13         ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20  1:22           ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20  2:01             ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20  2:34               ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20  2:47                 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20  6:18                   ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2017-09-20  4:35                 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20  5:54                   ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-24 23:03                 ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-09-24 23:35                   ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20 16:49             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-20  4:29         ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20  6:43         ` Peter Jeremy
2017-09-20  8:25           ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20  9:12             ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-20  9:34               ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20 16:48         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-20  2:07       ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-24 22:58         ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-09-20  4:26       ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 16:45     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-21 17:33     ` Tony Finch
2017-09-21 18:39       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-22  0:02         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-09-22  0:30           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-22  0:38             ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-22  0:39               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-22  0:50                 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-22  1:01                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-22  1:08                     ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-22 20:09                       ` [TUHS] remaking make (Re: " Bakul Shah
2017-09-22  2:25                   ` [TUHS] " Warner Losh
2017-09-22  3:26               ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-09-22  4:09                 ` ron minnich
2017-09-22  2:20             ` Warner Losh
2017-09-22  0:36           ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-22  0:40             ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-22  1:53             ` Michael Parson
2017-09-22  3:25       ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20  6:20   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-09-20 16:39   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-09-24 22:54   ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-09-25  0:16     ` Steve Johnson
2017-09-25 11:30       ` Ralph Corderoy
2017-09-20 18:15 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-20 18:35   ` Jon Steinhart

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