From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: robinb@ruffnready.co.uk (robinb@ruffnready.co.uk)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:44:21 +0000
Subject: [pups] ACMS (Australian 'puter museum) doomed?
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hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net wrote:
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> Robin, are you thinking of the V-1 platform? Because that one was
> pretty capable for a primitive cruise missile weapons platform. That's
> the only one I can think of that fits your description, after all I
> did visit the museum a longish time ago, as well.
No,
On the first floor there used to be (could still be there but it was a while ago) a room concerning computing.  In there was a wing, with the skin removed to show the structure, of a Henschel anti-ship missile.  These were dropped by bombers and then guided in by radio.  This was labeled up AFAIR as being manufactured by a primitive CNC system.  Looking at the various web pages from Zuse's writings he produced a measurement system for these so that they could be produced using low tech machining.

Robin

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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pups-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org
> [mailto:pups-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org] On
> > Behalf Of robinb at ruffnready.co.uk
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:27 AM
> > To: Jochen Kunz
> > Cc: pups at minnie.tuhs.org
> > Subject: Re: [pups] ACMS (Australian 'puter museum) doomed?
> > 
> > jkunz at unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote:
> > > On 2003.11.13 00:06 Johnny Billquist wrote:
> > >
> > > > Not to demean that effort, but don't the Germans have a Z4 still
> > > > working in a museum? That would mean something like 1942.
> > > 1942 would be the Z3, the first computer ever. The Z3 that is in
> the
> > > Deutsches Museum is AFAIK a rebuild of the original one. (Rebuild
> under
> > > the supervision of Konrad Zuse himself.) I don't know if the Z4 is
> still
> > > around. Google for "Konrad Zuse" and / or his son "Horst Zuse".
> Horst
> > > Zuse has put much effort in documenting the work of his father.
> > >
> > > I know that there is a Zuse Z23 in Karlsruhe. It was build in
> 1956,
> > > based on electron tubes, core and drum memory and it is still
> fully
> > > functional!
> > > --
> > I searched and found, very very interesting.  Zuse's statement that
> the Colossus team
> > and himself had been going down similar paths sounds very much like
> Leibnitz and
> > Newton over Calculus :-)
> > 
> > About 10 years ago I went into the National Air and Space museum in
> Washington
> > and they had a wind from a Henschel guided missile from World War 2.
> They
> > stated that it was built using some of the first computer controlled
> plant and I always
> > wondered what it was, well now I know.
> > 
> > Again, this is very interesting and I am astounded that it isn't
> widely known or
> > advertised.
> > 
> > Robin
> > 
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