From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6454 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2020 15:17:35 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Jul 2020 15:17:35 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 95A299CAB2; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 01:17:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74499C8E4; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 01:16:13 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; secure) header.d=xs4all.nl header.i=@xs4all.nl header.b="gB9kYO7K"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 381BD9C8E4; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 01:16:11 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 429 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 01:16:08 AEST Received: from lb2-smtp-cloud8.xs4all.net (lb2-smtp-cloud8.xs4all.net [194.109.24.25]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6774A9C8E2 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 01:16:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cust-b78b8d39 ([IPv6:fc0c:c13c:98fa:150c:cc7:77d5:90c0:2d4]) by smtp-cloud8.xs4all.net with ESMTPSA id 04kJkFahQzsLP04kKkkstn; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:08:57 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xs4all.nl; s=s1; t=1595862537; bh=piJfFXfUG0TBzfHXxRwMIFmrGlogxD+MFwJ60d57DCc=; h=From:Message-Id:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:To:From: Subject; b=gB9kYO7KerXtEL+OYO5qsXgQix11y4ItXwmUYC8Of+8WgSSGLCApfI/DcJnX8iNgm 96tTxSNqbXkCySMdiiVPWW1eftpOtu/EScsLv6PJ4VE+2jAWymtXC0bc2VcmIBT0vm gXaq4iBc19SeVWdOYAjYuvUdavOJvp0dY+gM6QRJlyC0RL6IgeaLT5Dy04ON+le8Xb NVUW/4Z9z0rC8HiVwD8oPjmYKsAMFE7rFA4OnBWuNks7xzzS96pOrzsRjaoRGb1TTh dyiHKJD6IRU8RMXHO/APeMroIrKSix3NnA1TWAlIOC8f++9HY+DzktM/ey8unTDcmV DMXVb8BOdZw1A== From: Jaap Akkerhuis Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_063798EB-7CFC-4468-93FE-D8F58CF02A3B"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.1\)) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:08:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20200727113023.D44494422C@lignose.oclsc.org> To: Norman Wilson References: <20200727113023.D44494422C@lignose.oclsc.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.1) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfLF6+efZOhtq8E2Pqdv1DqgZDoKPFAmS62LqWhqIlnRQbAP5/863NlCTViZ0dWQh6q00kZHwHkxkjzb2DNtvez1s1IH9jELe4qELTdLfYhKsezJ5jPRE P/WnCUGsq4H1DlT9kbjsETs2wjSJHCHFTuvGqWdOfMmfvGNBzZ0eRvGOf/2u+WfPOvaNyXH7SPChtg== Subject: Re: [TUHS] Troff to ps X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --Apple-Mail=_063798EB-7CFC-4468-93FE-D8F58CF02A3B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Jul 27, 2020, at 1:37, Norman Wilson wrote: > > Nemu Nusquam: > > When was dpost born? > > ===== > > CSTR 97, A Typesetter-Independent TROFF by Brian W Kernighan > was issued in 1981 and revised the next year. So that's the > earliest possible date. But that was before postscript, that was for the new typesetter. > I vaguely remember the existence of Postscript support in > general, including at least one Apple Laserwriter kicking > around somewhere, starting at some point during my time at > 1127 in the latter 1980s. First there was the Canon (LP 10 I believe) and postscript came later. SoftQuad licensed the DWB quite early in the process. > It's a scanned-image PDF so I can't search it by > machine, but it includes such things as listings of > the source-code directory and manifests of various > binary distributions, and dpost doesn't appear anywhere > I can see. As the URL implies, the docs seem to > be dated 1989. So maybe dpost wasn't part of the > product until DWB 3.0; but maybe we in Research got > an early copy of the postscript stuff (I think bwk > was in regular communication with the USG-troff > folks), perhaps in 1989. There was quite some communication between Peter Nilson (npn, known for picasso) and bwk. I myself ended up working on the last DWB (3.4.1). jaap --Apple-Mail=_063798EB-7CFC-4468-93FE-D8F58CF02A3B Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: no-use-standard-socket iF0EARECAB0WIQQrCaF5s4l4c+dDH/sjEcdY8Kh9hQUCXx7uBgAKCRAjEcdY8Kh9 hROCAJ97jzsTiwHAYfpJuutNDxebDPONzwCfRYFz0LqRdnbDpm3FjGudhJiVJZI= =mgEK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_063798EB-7CFC-4468-93FE-D8F58CF02A3B--