From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id bff06507 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2020 14:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B535B9CC22; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 00:33:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D996D9CC07; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 00:33:26 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=ccc.com header.i=@ccc.com header.b="Tf/BmCMj"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4AA9B9CC07; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 00:33:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f172.google.com (mail-qt1-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 823C89CB14 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 00:33:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f172.google.com with SMTP id h12so1698528qtu.1 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 06:33:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to :date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=n+KLWmKO66fnNtwpbg0WJKrs2+i/1IbA5990nfdd1+w=; b=Tf/BmCMjYz3RX/7JKC885YIE4YmE/RpbNAk6Tz/HTDDYxfBfspv+Brlz+jLT1U74AU cXH5tkZBKH31rg9Yrq6LdrxUTXD0MC4lhPYuSP4cBcc+HVKN7EwNHaLZ+Kc3+RRXPiUA OaJKeDH3RHuIYiqWZqdiEedc5R9xWK0Vj5BpE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=n+KLWmKO66fnNtwpbg0WJKrs2+i/1IbA5990nfdd1+w=; b=XlLdYBmpKu/6Q0HsTSImRcXzTYyDNSXwFO5a/gXVzahScwlwSMaFny9T0kAHnIAHQ3 hMAaOS68jBu9ny0HI9ZwUEsYSaFZEk45qiWK0ZImxwG1wvc+SVXWXBrabhCnZOxNWswc qK0yS2iir8l1YXwdgUNJV32zUckdBwmbXj8E5tfmusEAgcemF2fGbwTYaDbII1r3gFKf vS7kW1lojSDN2+DnB8JdBZ1NWgJjcDse2yM3iqqZp6SV2fIL0eRPFkZZSgmB8ySLir6T EKrCOmNVMvUmFjGiF6QS/3dVaFjHmzyTB6D1fRubCd28L8N/lQ2AW6bSg/y+UZsIB+4v YAfQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU+1Vg3J6U0JEk/c5FDwrwkM0f0NMqiEo2hWIiW0BPhRLLeOHKj CdX7NTrNHtc7EtKARUPoVokXUg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxn7baQBc6e0gSZCqtzYLBaoIICOLPnzKumKy3+uxCY7wWsHtdGmibM18Qb3fqFDbVdxFdA8A== X-Received: by 2002:aed:2643:: with SMTP id z61mr33909146qtc.49.1580913201322; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 06:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.167.133.115] (mobile-166-171-187-33.mycingular.net. [166.171.187.33]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i13sm12745591qkk.78.2020.02.05.06.33.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Feb 2020 06:33:19 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Clem cole In-Reply-To: <202002050845.0158jDOu024559@freefriends.org> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 08:35:07 -0500 Message-Id: References: <9c507ef665851fd21ecdf0e23136dc86@firemail.de> <1ippPk-8PE-00@marmaro.de> <1iqMuL-1zK-00@marmaro.de> <20200204094018.661e76717f7f475e6cb53e75@sjmulder.nl> <20200204201453.ebeaabon26vbgfle@localhost.localdomain> <202002050845.0158jDOu024559@freefriends.org> To: arnold@skeeve.com X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16G140) Subject: Re: [TUHS] pronouncing *nix formulas (was: screen editors) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" FWIW. When it was written, Ted and I used pronounced it as =E2=80=9Cfisk=E2=80= =9D (rhymes with =E2=80=9Cdisk=E2=80=9D), but F. S. C. K. was always accepta= ble to my ears. I admit I smiled one time when I heard some one call it =E2= =80=9Cf-sick=E2=80=9D but that was not considered the proper pronunciation. Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.= =20 > On Feb 5, 2020, at 3:45 AM, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: >=20 > "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: >=20 >> At 2020-02-04T09:40:18+0100, Sijmen J. Mulder wrote: >>> markus schnalke wrote: >>>> Wikipedia writes that `ed' would be pronounced ``ee-dee'' (like >>>> ``vee-eye''), is that what you english speakers do? >>=20 >> Certainly not. When one sees a command name that duplicates a >> frequently-used diminituve of a common name, the brain is going to >> select that preferentially. >=20 > ISTR thinking of it and calling it e-d, along with r-m, l-n, m-v and > the other two-letter commands. >=20 >> (And did people really say "dee-eye-tee-roff" for "ditroff"?) >=20 > I did ... Although it's "groff" and not "g-roff". :-) >=20 > FWIW, >=20 > Arnold