From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21543 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2020 13:46:03 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Nov 2020 13:46:03 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0BA129B95D; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 23:46:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B92E9B92D; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 23:45:22 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=mxes.net header.i=@mxes.net header.b="Sm62gl1k"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 326829B92D; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 23:45:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp-out-3.mxes.net (smtp-out-3.mxes.net [198.205.123.68]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B66D99B921 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 23:45:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from Customer-MUA (mua.mxes.net [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD39675A1D for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 08:45:14 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mxes.net; s=mta; t=1605793515; bh=bIubobN1DzcuLSPWzJQMAQ23xGe5SObX7XFR0k1R4Tw=; h=From:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:To:From; b=Sm62gl1kymVHjQs5uvdYycSu1RWcciANThxu1d0TtRNnvmu7noo+FoBoqyMr80z03 j8QRySbb06n92r5RdQsAEx+yeqxodPxGRpmGWIqz7y80Xq7uZ64iW7yGbLxgkQ76Xg DnImBreLaEe9KH4lxhDwWUjULF881c0taSrS8270= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ron Natalie Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 08:45:13 -0500 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18A8395) X-Sent-To: Subject: Re: [TUHS] Where did the "~" come from X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Not only were they embossed on the keys but I believe those control keys mo= ved the cursor in those directions. The Adm 1 and 3 were some of my first t= erminals. =20 Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2020, at 19:46, George Michaelson wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFA related but different "thing" is when the cd activity became a > pushdown stack of 2 (is it more? I never bothered checking) >=20 > somebody realised going "there and back again" was innately useful. >=20 > (I will never forget working on systems which had cd-moral-equivalent > and no cd-moral-equivalent but having cd-moral-equivalent > $HOME making all directory traversals downward, or back to your > personal root) >=20 > sorry for thread hijack. >=20 > -G >=20 >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:42 AM Dave Horsfall wrote: >>=20 >>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2020, Clem Cole wrote: >>>=20 >>> In our exchange, someone observed suggested that Joy might have picked >>> it up because the HOME key was part of the tilde key on the ADM3A, which= >>> were popular at UCB [i.e. the reason hjkl are the movement keys on vi is= >>> the were embossed on the top of those keys on the ADM3A]. It also was >>> noted that the ASR-33 lacks a ~ key on its keyboard. But Lesk >>> definitely needed something to represent a remote user's home directory >>> because each system was different, so he was forced to use something. >>=20 >> The ADM-3A was one of the best terminals ever made. >>=20 >>> It was also noted that there was plenty of cross-pollination going on as= >>> students and researchers moved from site to site, so it could have been B= TL >>> to UCB, vice-versa, or some other path altogether. >>>=20 >>> So two questions for this august body are: >>> 1. Where did the ~ as $HOME convention come to UNIX? >>=20 >> Gawd... I think I saw it in PWB, but I'm likely wrong. >>=20 >>> 2. Did UNIX create the idiom, or was there an earlier system such as CTS= S, >>> TENEX, ITS, MTS, TSS, or the like supported it? >>=20 >> No idea. but given that Unix inherited a lot of stuff.... >>=20 >> -- Dave