From: jsteve@superglobalmegacorp.com (Jason Stevens)
Subject: [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 09:19:07 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <EAAB73F0-6D4E-4534-A49B-AD69CFE41F6C@superglobalmegacorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfiPzzDKemjamKHP8rpC3j-hW_K3NY-D7oQ3D0k8DGzUpk+pg@mail.gmail.com>
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Emacs was the central exploit that "Jagger" used to gain root access once he got his way on a box.
It's a fantastic book, with good lessons in there that still ring true, such as keeping a log, documenting what you did and why, not emailing passwords and running a honeypot.
It also showed that if you weren't in the clique you didn't get source access and that finding even part of it was a big deal.
It's a shame his next book, silicone snake oil missed the mark by so much.
On February 27, 2017 12:05:19 AM GMT+08:00, Nemo <cym224 at gmail.com> wrote:
>On 26 February 2017 at 07:46, Michael Kjörling <michael at kjorling.se>
>wrote:
>> On 26 Feb 2017 07:39 -0500, from jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel
>Chiappa):
>>> I was never happy with the size of EMACS, and it had nothing to do
>with the
>>> amount of memory resources used. That big a binary implies a very
>large amount
>>> of source, and the more lines of code, the more places for bugs...
>>
>> But remember; without Emacs, we might never have had _The Cuckoo's
>> Egg_. Imagine the terror of that loss.
>
>Hhhmmm.... I must dig my copy out of storage because I do not remember
>emacs in there.
>
>As for emac uses, my wife was on (non-CS) staff at a local college
>affiliated with U of T. At the time, DOS boxes sat on staff desks and
>email was via a telnet connection to an SGI box somewhere on campus.
>A BATch file connected and ran pine but shelled out to an external
>editor. What was the editor? Well, I saw her composing a message
>once and ending the editor session by ^X^C.
>
>N.
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2017-02-25 14:17 [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Arno Griffioen
2017-02-25 14:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-25 16:35 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-25 18:11 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-25 18:16 ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 17:31 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-25 17:34 ` Charles Anthony
2017-02-25 17:36 ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 18:28 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-27 5:08 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-25 17:40 ` Nemo
2017-02-25 17:43 ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-25 23:23 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-26 12:39 ` Noel Chiappa
2017-02-26 12:46 ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 16:05 ` Nemo
2017-02-26 17:05 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 18:23 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 19:19 ` Jim Carpenter
2017-02-26 19:39 ` [TUHS] EMACS movemail suid root bug Michael Kjörling
[not found] ` <CALMnNGg3dRV0yPV1GgeqaOFG0Mb5PSNuqgPs8pLKOHYzurYEOg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-27 1:00 ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Nemo
2017-02-27 1:48 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-27 8:26 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-27 1:19 ` Jason Stevens [this message]
2017-02-27 2:13 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 13:32 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 14:19 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 14:54 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:25 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-02-26 15:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 15:37 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 15:52 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 16:06 ` tfb
2017-02-26 16:27 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:32 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-27 16:04 ` Tony Finch
2017-02-27 23:51 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-26 16:22 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 16:36 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 18:01 ` William Pechter
2017-02-26 18:40 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-02-26 16:06 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-02-26 16:30 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:15 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:20 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:23 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 17:33 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-26 17:39 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-26 17:39 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 19:33 ` [TUHS] roff Larry McVoy
2017-02-26 19:34 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:36 ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-26 19:46 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-26 19:41 ` Michael Kerpan
2017-02-26 21:27 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-26 21:28 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-27 13:59 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-28 20:15 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:22 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-01 1:31 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-28 20:40 ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-01 12:45 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-25 14:44 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during theyears? jsteve
2017-02-25 19:02 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Al Kossow
2017-02-26 4:06 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-01 4:15 ` Gregg Levine
2017-03-01 7:17 ` arnold
2017-03-01 7:45 ` Ronald Natalie
2017-03-01 11:14 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports duringthe years? jsteve
2017-03-01 14:54 ` [TUHS] Un-released/internal/special UNIX versions/ports during the years? Dan Cross
2017-03-01 15:41 ` Nemo
2017-03-01 18:17 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-02 2:13 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-02 2:27 ` Gregg Levine
[not found] <CAJfiPzzDKemjamKHP8rpC3j-hW_K3NY-D7oQ3D0k8DGzUpk pg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-26 16:46 ` [TUHS] The size of EMACS, and what hides in kLOCs Mutiny
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