From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7965 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2021 01:57:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Jun 2021 01:57:24 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6B573949BB; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:57:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF3793DBB; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:56:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E9E8C93DBB; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:56:20 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 901 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:56:20 AEST Received: from server907.appriver.com (server907a.appriver.com [204.232.250.39]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54D8E93D62 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:56:20 +1000 (AEST) X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 06/19/2021 9:41:18 PM X-Note: SecureTide Build: 6/10/2021 4:11:14 PM UTC (2.18.13.0) X-Note: Filtered by 10.246.1.78 X-Note-AR-Scan: None - PIPE Received: by server907.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 6.2.15) with PIPE id 132836038; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:41:18 -0400 Received: from [10.246.0.39] (HELO smtp.us.exg7.exghost.com) by server907.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.15) with ESMTPS id 132836037; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:41:17 -0400 Received: from E16DN31A-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local (192.168.244.15) by E16DN31A-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local (192.168.244.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.2242.10; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:41:17 -0400 Received: from E16DN31A-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local ([192.168.244.15]) by E16DN31A-S1E7.exg7.exghost.local ([192.168.244.15]) with mapi id 15.01.2242.010; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:41:17 -0400 From: Brantley Coile To: Rob Pike Thread-Topic: [TUHS] Disassemblers Thread-Index: AQHXZRyONlJkhuf7yECnMiWzJFa8Y6sbv4qAgAALCYCAAAcUgIAAPxuAgAAR8QCAAABKAIAAP+sA Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 01:41:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [99.102.142.76] x-rerouted-by-exchange: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5AF3F64CB8509342BD879A7DAD0F0024@fwd7.exghost.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 06/19/2021 9:41:17 PM X-Note: SecureTide Build: 6/10/2021 4:11:14 PM UTC (2.18.13.0) X-Note: Filtered by 10.246.1.78 X-Policy: GLOBAL X-Primary: GLOBAL@coraid.com X-Note-Sender: brantley@coraid.com X-Note-Envelope-Recip: FAILURE,DELAY, X-Note-Envelope-Recip: FAILURE,DELAY, X-Note-Envelope-Recip: FAILURE,DELAY, X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note-SnifferID: 0 X-GBUdb-Analysis: 1, 192.168.244.15, Ugly c=0.607136 p=-0.933702 Source Normal X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-4304-c X-Note-419: 15.5833 ms. Fail:0 Chk:1428 of 1428 total X-Note: VSCH-CT/SI: 0-1428/SG:1 6/19/2021 9:41:15 PM X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: PRIVATE->PRIVATE-> X-Note-Sending-IP: 10.246.0.39 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: X-Note-Return-Path: brantley@coraid.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G824 G826 G827 G828 G829 G847 G848 G849 G1257 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: VALID Subject: Re: [TUHS] Disassemblers X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" And I thank you for it, Rob. I use it still, almost daily. Brantley > On Jun 19, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Rob Pike wrote: >=20 > Although upon reflection, I think what I did was fix 'adb' and call it 'd= b'. Haven't had my coffee yet this morning. >=20 > -rob >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 7:49 AM Rob Pike wrote: > For v8 or thereabouts, I spent some time fixing some fundamental bugs in = db and found that it was arcane but remarkably powerful. Since it was lower= level, it avoided the endemic debugging problem of misleading you about yo= ur program: All it could do was tell you what the machine was doing. (Cdb, = sdb, and adb were, at least in my experience, always lying to you.) I may b= e the only person who appreciated db fully. Once the bugs were gone you rea= lly could use it to good effect, as long as you understood the CPU. >=20 > But it was buggy and arcane, no question about that. >=20 > -rob >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 6:46 AM Richard Salz wrote: > I remember compiling and playing Langston's "empire" that I was told came= from a decompiled executable. This was in the 4.2 days.