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[73.61.210.46]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b188-v6sm5035892qkf.71.2018.06.23.04.39.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Clem cole X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15F79) In-Reply-To: <48b2a3f8-66ca-2527-f471-062eead1c6fe@update.uu.se> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 07:39:46 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <48b2a3f8-66ca-2527-f471-062eead1c6fe@update.uu.se> To: Johnny Billquist Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old mainframe I/O speed (was: core) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" PCI was a late 1980s DEC design bus design that where released via license a= la the Ethernet experience of the xerox/dec/Intel blue book. DEC had mostl= y learned it lesson that interface standards were better shared. I=E2=80=99= ve forgotten now the name of the person who lead the team. I did not know h= im very well. I can picture his face as I said. =20 Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.= =20 > On Jun 23, 2018, at 6:32 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: >=20 >> On 2018-06-22 20:01, Clem Cole wrote: >> One of the other BI people, who's name now escapes me, although I can see= >> his face in my mind, maybe I'll think of it later), would go on to do the= >> PCI for Alpha a couple of years later. As I said, DEC did manage to get= >> that one public, after the BI was made private as Erik points out. >=20 > Clem, I think I saw you say something similar in an earlier post. > To me it sounds as if you are saying that DEC did/designed PCI. > Are you sure about that? As far as I know, PCI was designed and created by= Intel, and the first users were just plain PC machines. > Alpha did eventually also get PCI, but it was not where it started, and DE= C had no control at all about PCI being public. >=20 > Might you have been thinking of Turbobus, Futurebus, or some other thing t= hat DEC did? Or do you have some more information about DEC being the creato= r of PCI? >=20 > Johnny >=20 > --=20 > Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus > || on a psychedelic trip > email: bqt@softjar.se || Reading murder books > pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol