From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20711 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2021 18:50:50 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Nov 2021 18:50:50 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0BE349CA57; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 04:50:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C389CA38; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 04:48:21 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=planet.nl header.i=@planet.nl header.b="YRMjtgnP"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5DB979CA38; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 04:48:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl (unknown [195.121.94.168]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31F5B9CA36 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 04:48:06 +1000 (AEST) X-KPN-MessageId: ff2a7431-489f-11ec-8862-005056aba152 Received: from smtp.kpnmail.nl (unknown [10.31.155.39]) by ewsoutbound.so.kpn.org (Halon) with ESMTPS id ff2a7431-489f-11ec-8862-005056aba152; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:47:35 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=planet.nl; s=planet01; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-type:from; bh=w45VCXXvKMphtg3KvB3R7PvQBioJ3ud5t8sIwrTEj0E=; b=YRMjtgnPAio8YnO/QOPalZnYqF/qtA097hExRXTK6rqpKuUcjLpY5VNUVxteoDnh4o7XKSbtElxd3 mxLm6eSbjphv9a2ZlQOQku/9lmWrDXUoNYypHy1aP8OHDXB4T4vR3xxQ6M6xKWUh1w9n8XV/Lcdyt3 oYnwL6+5JgXDgzM4= X-KPN-MID: 33|eQ8XTlxfQLEsLK61ogevKjCFtm8HrPHf764r3ZWSAZtlYMY8EKFXAfHZmeGjNO4 iEzR889qR/FeqhmZAl/zXjKywmcJVhNIIkUc+2POyB4A= X-KPN-VerifiedSender: Yes X-CMASSUN: 33|ejO8FxmiJH1czskS3BFCkMkROk87FgAeZxxCNEmtyD8PYAvW9GaGUDE6W3d96rL G9bNlH2vv1wM5br6eZROx4Q== X-Originating-IP: 80.101.112.122 Received: from mba2.fritz.box (sqlite.xs4all.nl [80.101.112.122]) by smtp.kpnmail.nl (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 0a72822b-48a0-11ec-81f5-005056ab7447; Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:47:55 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 19:47:54 +0100 To: TUHS main list X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Book Recommendation [ reallly inscrutable languages ] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS Reply-To: Paul Ruizendaal Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Here=E2=80=99s another angle on Perl, perhaps more on topic for TUHS. = Let=E2=80=99s accept for a minute that Perl filled the void between C = and shell scripts, and that there was a latent need for a scripting = language like this on Unix. The shell, awk, sed, etc. had arrived at more or less fully formed = versions by 1980. Perl (and TCL) did not appear until the very end of = the 1980=E2=80=99s. What filled the gap in that decade, if anything? Ancient Unix has =E2=80=98bs=E2=80=99 = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bs_(programming_language) but this seems = to have had very little use. Paul