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From: segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
To: josh <joshnatis0@gmail.com>
Cc: segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fifth Edition Manual Restoration
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2023 22:21:55 +0000	[thread overview]
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I will add the caveat that typesetting accuracy isn't my primary goal although it is a secondary one.  My primary goal is easily diffable sources between versions to then facilitate version analysis.  I intend to take this same approach to plenty of other documents we have lying around in scanned form to try and get a better machine-readable body of research material available, including stuff like the Documents for UNIX PWB 1.0 and Release 4.1 sets and the CB-UNIX sources we have bumping around the archive.  Part of my reasoning on putting these in git archives as I go is so that if someone does want to come do some editing, corrections, etc. they're free to fork or raise a PR on my repositories.

- Matt G.

------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, March 8th, 2023 at 12:32 PM, josh <joshnatis0@gmail.com> wrote:


> Hi Angelo,
> 
> G. Branden Robinson, (CCed on this email) attempted a somewhat similar mission,
> re-typesetting the paper "Typesetting Mathematics by Kernighan and Cherry" with
> groff. If you look through the email thread detailing the result [1], you can
> see notes about aesthetic regressions from the original troff document, and
> Branden's attempts to fix them. Hope you don't mind me summoning you, Branden
> :).
> 
> [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2022-07/msg00000.html
> 
> Additionally (though unrelated to roff), the Computerphile youtube channel has
> a video [2] you may find interesting titled "Recreating Dennis Ritchie's PhD
> Thesis", in which they discuss how they went about making a faithful recreation
> of dmr's unsubmitted PhD thesis.
> 
> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82TxNejKsng
> 
> Hope this generates some interesting discussion? :)
> Josh
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 11:30 AM Angelo Papenhoff aap@papnet.eu wrote:
> 
> > Something I'd like is to recreate the original troff output exactly. I
> > used troff from plan 9 (so same lineage as original troff) but something
> > causes the output to not look exactly like the original. I don't
> > remember what it is exactly but you can easily check by comparing my
> > pdfs with the scan. Line lengths, page length, something like that.
> > 
> > I don't know if this is just a troff setting or if troff had changed
> > enough to cause this difference. Unfortunately the original troff is
> > lost so no way to compare. v7 (or PWB?) is the earliest version of troff
> > that's still around. And even then one would need CAT emulation, which I
> > haven't bothered with yet.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Angelo
> > 
> > On 08/03/23, segaloco wrote:
> > 
> > > Ouch....well I'm glad I shared then, I had no idea someone had already done this....well good to know, I guess I can move on to the CB and MERT manuals then.
> > > 
> > > - Matt G.
> > > 
> > > ------- Original Message -------
> > > On Wednesday, March 8th, 2023 at 2:02 AM, Angelo Papenhoff aap@papnet.eu wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I've done this a couple of years ago:
> > > > http://squoze.net/UNIX
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Angelo
> > > > 
> > > > On 08/03/23, segaloco via TUHS wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > So I decided to keep the momentum and have just finished the first pass of a Fifth Edition manual restoration based on the same process I used for 3B20 4.1:
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://gitlab.com/segaloco/v5man
> > > > > 
> > > > > There were a few pages missing from the extant PDF scan, at least as far as pages that were in both V4 and V6 sources, so those are handled by seeing how V5 source of the few programs compares to V6. I'll note which pages required this in a second pass.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've set my sights on V1 and V2 next, using V3's extant roff sources as a starting point, so more to come.
> > > > > 
> > > > > - Matt G.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-08 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-08  7:26 [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-03-08 10:02 ` [TUHS] " Angelo Papenhoff
2023-03-08 16:02   ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-03-08 16:30     ` Angelo Papenhoff
2023-03-08 20:55       ` josh
2023-03-08 22:21         ` segaloco via TUHS [this message]
2023-03-08 23:09       ` David Arnold
2023-03-09  6:59         ` arnold
2023-03-09 14:24         ` Clem Cole
2023-03-09 20:48           ` Rob Pike
2023-03-09 21:04             ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-09 22:32             ` Rich Salz
2023-03-09 23:51             ` Jeremy C. Reed
2023-03-10  1:58               ` Rob Pike
2023-03-10  6:33               ` Jonathan Gray
2023-03-10  7:50             ` Jonathan Gray
2023-03-10 13:11               ` Clem Cole

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