From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17534 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2024 17:21:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Jan 2024 17:21:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C8843F7B; Mon, 8 Jan 2024 03:21:45 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1704648106; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=KrfG4dITjxnnFIt6dl7e2mjK2TVtjDH8/pz++adN7cE=; b=1PAz/EdvG1jbdVPCAW/PNwzO1r+bPciL28HsbusNEhUUyAyKyHBbNvYtTfDTgOFRqvXyRL NQbzW/Iz7OXlkLnU0QEMlWl5cwjFSvWQbqllP5wr3AA82CDBub6VrVtXdw9watElb5tdIr +QwWCW3iWbph6PbrsG6PxSQWvnt/Uec= Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch (mail-4325.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.25]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81D1E43F79 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2024 03:21:38 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1704648096; x=1704907296; bh=KrfG4dITjxnnFIt6dl7e2mjK2TVtjDH8/pz++adN7cE=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=wxjgatvr9WUtA4Tj8hzG4FsHhIWSp0TyoUJ5nVI0iDAV+hlz42cwhJANPKMxx/GRU cxsQUXvzFYbFZfI5D2YiBIrTvZWFX9N8NcAE8RgyAQ+XroHibEq6gM3XnHn7SDxUVf T80pjgnTpPVEiwlztdhumXKrSzv+nyApqpJzNxr3WJZTN1EFF/Cn4YtAgHzuXcrSjh nUZ7/SFb6HpeqOI/xlNr1NpIa9ewKhNI7N0UmzBd0MGZ5KvaKb11CgpPG3lal0ERW8 tL+3ZN5UQ45ajWsck72p7G3b7ejjGbJ9wyRCZXml/ibnKcVHiPkwCcDPg9L0noEsFK iEtoSLfKHHaEQ== Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2024 17:21:14 +0000 To: Phil Budne Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <202401071527.407FRvT0019300@ultimate.com> References: <202212221852.2BMIqMRk003859@ultimate.com> <429f452e-eee9-5b8f-ffa4-07dea148cede@bitsavers.org> <202401071527.407FRvT0019300@ultimate.com> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: V5B6XAYOGZVDEAWA6SSX5CM5OCPI4GZG X-Message-ID-Hash: V5B6XAYOGZVDEAWA6SSX5CM5OCPI4GZG X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org, aek@bitsavers.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Early supported UNIX manual List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco On Sunday, January 7th, 2024 at 7:27 AM, Phil Budne wro= te: > Not that I can tell you an easy name for what to call it! I've just been referring to these as "PGs" for short, so USG PGII. The MER= T manual on the archive is visually similar to this one, as one would expec= t since it is based on PGIII. Very very cool to see this finally, thanks A= l! One more down, I believe someone on list has confirmed ownership of a P= GIII manual as well, but I'm not sure if the very first issue even had prin= t manuals distributed. Program Generic is a bit obscure given the earlines= s of it but my understanding is that it served both as the standard support= ed UNIX for computer users in the Bell System *and* as the standard base fo= r UNIX-based projects that weren't butted right up against research (e.g. M= ERT.) I've seen this "Generic" nomenclature used for other such things in = Bell System literature, representing a "stock" version of some technology p= rior to differentiation into separate products. It's actually used later i= n UNIX releases too, a 3B20S document refers to the UNIX Release as the tim= e as "the latest Generic(sic)". I believe this capitalization points to si= milar naming influences. First thing I looked for but couldn't find is a reference to what macro pac= kage was used for these documents. You can see the same style in both the = PGII program description document and the MERT 0 manual. I suspect there's= some connection between this and the OSDD package but that's currently jus= t an assumption based on this also looking somewhat BSP-ish in select code,= date, etc presentation in the header. The existence of the program descri= ption document leads me to believe there were other such secondary document= s distinct from the Volume 2 documents, but this is just a hunch. Either w= ay, this'll certainly help my manual diffing efforts! - Matt G.