From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30567 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2020 22:03:28 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Sep 2020 22:03:28 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C0E7F94553; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:03:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5936D93D33; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:02:49 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b="vkLcl80z"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7EC4D93D33; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:02:46 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 345 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:02:46 AEST Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com (pb-smtp1.pobox.com [64.147.108.70]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06D6A93D06 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:02:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from pb-smtp1.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DB773176; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:56:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davida@pobox.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date :message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; s=sasl; bh=tjXuCa0oR8Y aH19hnLryAm2klb0=; b=vkLcl80z4SIys3SpZFz0JEJvOLKAVzqCQBD01kgEcBB nax5OFvGOurdvrwzzvgEGil8PVwtZjF0f/NzTbZE1amtSxpbNsebgnpYVoNm37CE ue4IVQjH2omejuxogBvtlVY/jEWs9tMfpiphZpDmdIAue4pfzYnRWuL8tNIITuKw = DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date :message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; q=dns; s=sasl; b=I1K7S mMgbZkuJRRJ7lqxMzHxGtUMHyuzleixTTYcQxKOT6q3Fspjh4vSaDE7WUSWBR+tB euR5UwGHbcre9TOABG6dIDMQ/IG3EePIz2BW/XJKGyhWXDW2yFARgvC88lFlg/ZU I5bOo4KgF9y0VVNjDTGH3PbFnIosGf3+aiNfBk= Received: from pb-smtp1.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED9873175; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:56:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davida@pobox.com) Received: from [192.168.86.66] (unknown [203.132.93.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp1.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 78B7D73173; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:56:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from davida@pobox.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: David Arnold Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:56:53 +1000 Message-Id: References: <58699dd0-5477-2fe4-5435-ccadeebed821@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <58699dd0-5477-2fe4-5435-ccadeebed821@gmail.com> To: Jon Forrest X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17H35) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 0A364502-FAC3-11EA-87AD-01D9BED8090B-29049682!pb-smtp1.pobox.com Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix on DEC AlphaServer 4000 X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I worked at a Digital-sponsored lab in Australia from the early 90=E2=80=99s= . DEC offered us a great deal on DEC 3000-era workstations, replacing all ou= r Ultrix DECstations in (I think) 1994. At that point, very little of the freely available software would build clea= nly for 64 bit platforms. Even the stuff with Cray support often didn=E2=80=99= t work with OSF/1=E2=80=99s 32 bit int/64 bit long model.=20 And pthreads was a mess, with all the Unix-like systems having implementatio= ns of different drafts that were incompatible.=20 After a while Digital started redistributing a =E2=80=9Cfreeware=E2=80=9D co= llection of suitably patched versions to bootstrap everyone=E2=80=99s workfl= ows.=20 d > On 19 Sep 2020, at 14:34, Jon Forrest wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >=20 >> On 9/18/2020 8:26 PM, Paul Riley wrote: >> I have an opportunity to buy a DEC AlphaServer. Is there a version of Uni= x which will run on this? >=20 > Absolutely! The CS Dept. at UC Berkeley got some of the first Alphas > released by DEC back in the 90s (I don't remember the exact dates). > We ran OSF/1 (a.k.a. Digital Unix, a.k.a other names). In fact, what > became PostgreSQL was developed on Alphas running that Unix. >=20 > Jon >=20