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From: Serissa <stewart@serissa.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Cc: Bakul Shah <bakul@iitbombay.org>,
	The Unix Heritage Society mailing list <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: If forking is bad, how about buffering?
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 21:26:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F1BC6F9C-3740-4EA6-BA70-95CB032466DC@serissa.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240519012114.GU9216@mcvoy.com>

MIT's FOS (Factored Operating System) research OS did cross address space copies as part of its messaging machinery.

HPC networking does this by using shared memory (Cross Memory Attach and XPMEM) in a traditional kernel. 

-L


> On May 18, 2024, at 9:21 PM, Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 06:04:23PM -0700, Bakul Shah via TUHS wrote:
>> [1] This brings up a separate point: in a microkernel even a simple
>> thing like "foo | bar" would require a third process - a "pipe
>> service", to buffer up the output of foo! You may have reduced
>> the overhead of individual syscalls but you will have more of
>> cross-domain calls!
> 
> Do any micro kernels do address space to address space bcopy()?
> --
> ---
> Larry McVoy           Retired to fishing          http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-19  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-13 13:34 [TUHS] " Douglas McIlroy
2024-05-13 22:01 ` [TUHS] " Andrew Warkentin
2024-05-14  7:10 ` Rob Pike
2024-05-14 11:10   ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-05-15 14:42     ` Dan Cross
2024-05-15 16:42       ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-05-19  1:04         ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19  1:21           ` Larry McVoy
2024-05-19  1:26             ` Serissa [this message]
2024-05-19  1:40             ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19  1:50               ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19  2:02               ` Larry McVoy
2024-05-19  2:28                 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19  2:53                 ` Andrew Warkentin
2024-05-19  8:30                   ` Marc Rochkind
2024-05-19  2:26             ` Andrew Warkentin
2024-05-19 16:04           ` Paul Winalski
2024-05-14 22:08   ` George Michaelson
2024-05-14 22:34 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19 10:41 ` Ralph Corderoy

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