From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e7dbe330 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 07:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D6E36A1AA7; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 17:12:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D530EA1A2D; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 17:12:01 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=pobox.com header.i=@pobox.com header.b=Q7143Yjx; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 729CAA1A2D; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 17:11:58 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 566 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2018 17:11:57 AEST Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com (pb-smtp2.pobox.com [64.147.108.71]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7A58A1A1A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 17:11:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6446910779C; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 03:02:30 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=sasl; bh= iwyiGx1oIXbMhJzXUGmpjYt/tcI=; b=Q7143Yjx6gVj+MOzlohuKK9n5ekSMghF S39F6zykbnrTnM1y4En2QFgclqRH76g6e3nYeSyz1lbyjowMkHyKMrwMKkWvH1Z5 tswOn3QNHgTTgqFYwwXSSWHz19H5KEGw8d4WKnhRSjMq7cYUBX/6T6iH4iU/sJiB VcL6aVZt4bk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s= sasl; b=rP9ufTHHvBXQnGohsyyI6NslnRgbrGtsbmOxFi+EqfLU+s4pUKs41th2 Q9SUr/JfENKROr1pAfmqjh0r+74Js0N12ZcBjpCtOtPGAtknkV+GYjMl6iLK8lNB o1suVTGbaLosOBh8/og+Du184r/34ComV+KVriWEl1CCM8bHYvw= Received: from pb-smtp2.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D96210779B; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 03:02:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.86] (unknown [108.226.107.96]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DFB6510779A; Mon, 3 Sep 2018 03:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-693773FC-67B6-4F17-8CDA-7717269428F0 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: "Jeffrey H. Johnson" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (16A5366a) In-Reply-To: <20180902224515.GA57766@bugle.employees.org> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 03:02:28 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <20180830175420.3zs4gpyacsgrh7wc@h-174-65.A328.priv.bahnhof.se> <49620ace-ca66-c288-2ab3-3a0fe4af640e@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <20180902224515.GA57766@bugle.employees.org> To: Derek Fawcus X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 52AAF5E0-AF47-11E8-992E-BFB3E64BB12D-32570403!pb-smtp2.pobox.com Subject: Re: [TUHS] =?utf-8?b?UmV0cm9OZXTigKY=?= X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" --Apple-Mail-693773FC-67B6-4F17-8CDA-7717269428F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interestingly -=20 https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2013/10/25/doom-ipx-revisited/ has a good= writeup on the Doom IPX issue - it was a poor implementation sending mainly= empty frames. https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2014/06/10/announcing-hec= netnt/ shows how adding compression to a bridge is able to eliminate 80% of t= he traffic. Bring this back on topic, perhaps adding optional LZO compression, but enabl= ed by default, would be a good idea for RetroNet. --Jeff=20 > On Sep 2, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Derek Fawcus wrote: >=20 >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:11:17PM -0600, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: >> But if you want to use RetroNet to play Doom across IPX with buddies acro= ss town, then you should be able to do so. >=20 > Err - maybe not. >=20 > I recall doing that once or twice on our office LAN at the time, it was ve= ry chatty - as I recall it sucked most of the available b/w. >=20 > (Or maybe that was just 'cause it was using broadcast packets) >=20 > DF --Apple-Mail-693773FC-67B6-4F17-8CDA-7717269428F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2013/10/25/doom-ipx-revisited/&= nbsp;has a good writeup on the Doom IPX issue - it was a poor implementation= sending mainly empty frames.  https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/20= 14/06/10/announcing-hecnetnt/ shows how adding compression to a bri= dge is able to eliminate 80% of the traffic.