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From: ron@ronnatalie.com (Ronald Natalie)
Subject: [TUHS] Gnu/Stallman (was Bugs in V6 'dcheck')
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 08:27:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FBA977D9-C128-4321-8671-2799EAF06715@ronnatalie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2M3KuBcVGgD6rE-u0JLuQQ=J374DFiqK4kBgOdh3xcSwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Well PCC wasn't bad (we used it to build the compilers for the HEP Supercomputer), but you are correct GCC was reasonably good.
In addition to Idris mentioned, there was also Mark Williams's Coherent.   The bigger issues with these "clones" and the legitimate Unices like XENIX, IS/1, etc... were that the PC platform wasn't quite there yet.     Still with all it's flaws, on the 286 and later UNIX actually did run in protected mode, something it took ages for DOS/Windows (one can argue backwards compatibility with the early processors) or Apple (no excuse here, the early Macs were 68000's which had protection) to pick up upon.

Wasn't just us in academia who were concerned.   Spent an evening sitting in the hallway of some dormitory (UDel?) with Dennis Mumaugh from the NSA discussing security holes we'd fixed.

Carping about obscure bugs in Version 6 is sort of silly (as I stated, they were even fixed as of V7) and frankly, software security / reliability was a different world back then.    We had less of a time with our TOPS-10 system only because we didn't give students so much free rain on the accounts (compared to the UNIX system which you just had to ask pretty much) but I still remember crashing the EXEC-8 system at UofM with a corrupted file I kept around.

Of course there were always hardware bugs to deal with.   There were some on the PDP-11 and even on the 386 (when I was working with AIX ...really the UCLA Locus version of UNIX) there was disgusting hacks that doiubled up the paging protection with the old segment-offset stuff because of a security bug there.




  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-02 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-02  2:09 Doug McIlroy
2014-06-02  2:24 ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  2:59 ` Warner Losh
2014-06-02  3:17   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2014-06-02  3:37     ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  4:08       ` scj
2014-06-02  5:03       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2014-06-02 12:31         ` Ronald Natalie
2014-06-02  4:04     ` Nick Downing
2014-06-02  4:43       ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  6:23         ` arnold
2014-06-02 17:35           ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 18:44             ` Warner Losh
2014-06-02 18:52               ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  3:18   ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  6:08   ` Steve Nickolas
2014-06-02 12:04 ` Clem Cole
2014-06-02 12:27   ` Ronald Natalie [this message]
2014-06-02 13:28     ` Clem Cole
2014-06-02 14:11       ` Tim Bradshaw
2014-06-02 14:25         ` Clem Cole
2014-06-02 14:41           ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 14:50             ` Armando Stettner
2014-06-02 18:27               ` Brantley Coile
2014-06-02 18:52                 ` Dan Cross
2014-06-02 19:10                   ` arnold
2014-06-03  1:45                     ` Brantley Coile
2014-06-02 19:30                   ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 19:54                     ` Dan Cross
2014-06-02 23:37                       ` John Cowan
2014-06-03  1:24                         ` Dan Cross
2014-06-03  2:16                           ` John Cowan
2014-06-03  2:18                             ` Dan Cross
2014-06-02 19:47                   ` Chris Nehren
2014-06-02 20:23                     ` Dan Cross
2014-06-03 18:48                       ` [TUHS] Evolutionary Paths (was Gnu/Stallman (was Bugs in V6 'dcheck')) scj
2014-06-04  1:10                         ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-04  3:42                           ` Greg Chesson
2014-06-05  0:43                             ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-02 21:08                   ` [TUHS] Gnu/Stallman (was Bugs in V6 'dcheck') Charlie Kester
2014-06-03  0:37                   ` Tim Newsham
2014-06-02 20:06           ` Jacob Goense
2014-06-02 14:26         ` arnold
2014-06-02 14:30       ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 14:24     ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 14:29       ` Ronald Natalie
2014-06-02 14:37       ` Clem Cole
2014-06-05  7:31       ` Arno Griffioen
2014-06-05  8:24         ` emu
2014-06-05  9:17         ` Wesley Parish
2014-06-05 11:26           ` Brantley Coile
2014-06-05 13:34             ` Jesus Cea
2014-06-11 12:10           ` Michael Parson
2014-06-12  1:20             ` Wesley Parish
2014-06-05 15:07         ` Clem Cole
2014-06-05 18:26           ` Ronald Natalie

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