From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28706 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2022 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 31 Dec 2022 21:12:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E69423C2; Sun, 1 Jan 2023 07:12:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl (unknown [195.121.94.168]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEE8741BC8 for ; Sun, 1 Jan 2023 07:12:01 +1000 (AEST) X-KPN-MessageId: 8cf1d177-894f-11ed-956b-005056aba152 Received: from smtp.kpnmail.nl (unknown [10.31.155.38]) by ewsoutbound.so.kpn.org (Halon) with ESMTPS id 8cf1d177-894f-11ed-956b-005056aba152; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 22:10:27 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=planet.nl; s=planet01; h=to:message-id:date:from:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=kb2vEKsSuMkF1PiBHv7LC+zXxon1AXwb+hnsg3MXM7A=; b=rvbnLdKJui0Op4hANSc6WU2jfZ0VhHAC8cwyJLwbMz01uird+cXgLq4/kpoDEZewE7LQB5Gn6sWp3 xQm+BVovut2sxOCNvHUWn/8SklOQOShDVm3szRWzxHu5MFFu9PZp+nXAMK29/GbxG/KSfa2vvoGWNM 3Xvzlblbekb6XXpo= X-KPN-MID: 33|pZy6HDLobHlucWpwaEIbOy8JxBLQJgWApBP6VrVvdfSvPhHpLGGQUrGDK3TD/KF kUEA0D+3p9jYRYL8PfY52mBAukYw9x1G0zp6Tl81Uokk= X-KPN-VerifiedSender: Yes X-CMASSUN: 33|jUDswybxhYNBX2PieEU44PzuLd1gk6k8L8T3ybt8re573GvDLWBEvF/bqyIWGvw xUjcCt0tANIxxlCEuAD61LQ== X-Originating-IP: 77.172.38.96 Received: from smtpclient.apple (77-172-38-96.fixed.kpn.net [77.172.38.96]) by smtp.kpnmail.nl (Halon) with ESMTPSA id bd6b656f-894f-11ed-97f1-005056abf0db; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 22:11:49 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) From: Paul Ruizendaal In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2022 22:11:48 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <335F89A9-30C2-41A2-8E84-C2D761746634@planet.nl> To: Clem Cole X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Message-ID-Hash: BWBMAD7UN4V2UA27DHAP6VYKRZIGRHAL X-Message-ID-Hash: BWBMAD7UN4V2UA27DHAP6VYKRZIGRHAL X-MailFrom: pnr@planet.nl X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Porting the SysIII kernel: boot, config & device drivers List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > On 31 Dec 2022, at 20:08, Clem Cole wrote: >=20 > [snip] >=20 > In general, the idea of a BIOS isn't terrible: provide an interface > that decouples the OS and hardware. > Exactly - the idea is actually a good one. But the problem was the = BIOS designed/implemented by HW people, but OS folks. Things like = concurrency minimum use of the CPU was not in the higher order bits. My limited experience of working with "board support packages" does = support the idea that these are written by the hardware designers as a = quick afterthought after completing the chip.