From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7258 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2023 21:33:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Jun 2023 21:33:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C8541085; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:33:13 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1686605593; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=5TXc7WL+Sf7qtNg6yabzo6ScyB8DIfFvTYWowWwxJnI=; b=nsognrHtSQtNtYVw6Ty9S9CB5S637VR37JlUCfbJkzBhE2fIGszVj6fhqOK3dGz+aSgCY3 tITlrBqzuFO5GPQyb2WNQz3IhRXiR5Exvj6f7OBamseZwlEReDdj0a4t4809WzKrW/hUoE ux84D4jiOgWmwX+1HAcY+PNevxOEnr8= Received: from mail-40137.protonmail.ch (mail-40137.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.137]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88BD741070 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:33:06 +1000 (AEST) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 21:32:58 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1686605584; x=1686864784; bh=5TXc7WL+Sf7qtNg6yabzo6ScyB8DIfFvTYWowWwxJnI=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=vxMnX6iVlCQMFnmb05kK0xoxLQ/HT+M9FdpD1nOSv56BPqo4bgpsEKRklxE3Ya0kQ KFlQ7z5BG8MUZLcIBy1xrzPNO7kib9NYjTulntCTqcrDMDkmCMf+Hq8CGA3juT37HS P8hvJzi676RmB734Rre5vVFCzuc44QnEaFfbtqTPUUlfLAusUoDtdGbzCzc9djD4LE u65d5vIQ6L9iwUEijv0FLyGGxL9vdGkKwYzoAtwNSRyNVJujJ818QzKj5AvQdROXiK IA/WilqCn21VLFSl1blC2M0FvxLM+kQRFes10gDGEF9vswIdSZlUFNfbE9odZ99py0 J4f3JCgFGVGAA== To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <8DE09E23-5348-496B-B1CF-EDE9C47983B2@mac.com> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: G3TRXXZGHIPHLQYDWVVZKYX4KHKCOAKS X-Message-ID-Hash: G3TRXXZGHIPHLQYDWVVZKYX4KHKCOAKS X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: crt0 -- what's in that name? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco > It may be that crt stood for "compiler run time" back when C was the > only compiler in town. >=20 > -Paul W. I don't know about this, only given the fact that B was already there and h= ad a brt1 and brt2, crt0 seems like a natural follow-on to this naming sche= me and I would suspect the c in crt0 referring to the language, not "compil= er" was probably there from the genesis. These are the single letter assoc= iations I've found: - a - assembly as in liba.a - b - B lang as in libb.a, brt1, bilib - c - C lang as in libc.a, crt0 - e - Explor as in libe.a - f - Fortran as in fc, f77, libf.a, fr0 - l - LIL as in lc (LIL compiler) - m - m6 as in /sys/lang/mdir Of course letters get reused for things, this logic would imply the LIL lan= guage would have a libl.l but that instead is the lex library as appears a = little later on. Y of course eventually gets associated with yacc. Not af= firmative proof but I would be more inclined to suspect the c there is a la= nguage reference than standing for "compiler" - Matt G. P.S. The "bss" definition that lives in my head is "block-sized storage" bu= t frankly I can't recall where I picked that up. I feel like I didn't just= make that up but Google returns nothing.