* [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!! @ 2003-11-08 12:30 Philip, Naveen J (Naveen) 2003-11-08 12:49 ` Warren Toomey 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Philip, Naveen J (Naveen) @ 2003-11-08 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi All I am trying to lauch a xterm window on a remote machine and then once the xterm window is launched from the remote machine I am trying to start a gui on the xterm window. The following is the command I am using to start the xterm .It is failing and giving the error. remsh hostname " . /home/john/.profile >/dev/null 2> /dev/null;xterm" stty: invalid command xterm Xt error: Can't open display also can you let me know once the xterm is open how do we lauch the gui on the xterm window using the same remoteshell.The gui name is nam_gui. Regards, Naveen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!! 2003-11-08 12:30 [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!! Philip, Naveen J (Naveen) @ 2003-11-08 12:49 ` Warren Toomey 2003-11-08 21:30 ` Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) Kenneth Stailey 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Warren Toomey @ 2003-11-08 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw) On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:00:57PM +0530, Philip, Naveen J (Naveen) wrote: > Hi > All > I am trying to lauch a xterm window on a remote machine and then once the > xterm window is launched from the remote machine I am trying to start a gui > on the xterm window. Naveen, this is a mailing list about Heritage Unix. I don't think your question counts as such, unless you're running X11R3 on a Sun2 or something similar. Cheers, Warren ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) 2003-11-08 12:49 ` Warren Toomey @ 2003-11-08 21:30 ` Kenneth Stailey 2003-11-09 19:22 ` Jochen Kunz 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-11-08 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw) --- Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:00:57PM +0530, Philip, Naveen J (Naveen) wrote: > > Hi > > All > > I am trying to lauch a xterm window on a remote machine and then once the > > xterm window is launched from the remote machine I am trying to start a gui > > on the xterm window. > > Naveen, this is a mailing list about Heritage Unix. I don't think > your question counts as such, unless you're running X11R3 on a Sun2 > or something similar. > > Cheers, > Warren Speaking of X on Heritage Unix I have a Sun 3/60M with the 1280x1024 monochrome display. The only display server I have ever gotten to work on it is on NetBSD 1.3 running the pre-XFree86 X11R6. I'm wondering if there are any older UNIXes I could use. Does Sun still keep SunOS 4 under wraps or can it be used for non-commerical purposes at no cost? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) 2003-11-08 21:30 ` Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-11-09 19:22 ` Jochen Kunz 2003-11-11 8:13 ` Wesley Parish 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Jochen Kunz @ 2003-11-09 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 309 bytes --] On 2003.11.08 13:30 Kenneth Stailey wrote: > Does Sun still keep SunOS 4 under wraps or can it be > used for non-commerical purposes at no cost? You can download SunOS for sun3 legal and for free from http://www.sun3zoo.de/ -- tschüß, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) 2003-11-09 19:22 ` Jochen Kunz @ 2003-11-11 8:13 ` Wesley Parish 2003-11-11 12:15 ` Tim Bradshaw ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Wesley Parish @ 2003-11-11 8:13 UTC (permalink / raw) I've personally thought that Sun should release the source trees of its old BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back onside with all the Linux and Unix people it pissed off by its "buying" a "Unix" license from SCO, the Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers. I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K emulation stuff out there - for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3 emulator should be relatively easy. What do Sun-worshippers ;^) think? Wesley Parish On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:22, Jochen Kunz wrote: > On 2003.11.08 13:30 Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > Does Sun still keep SunOS 4 under wraps or can it be > > used for non-commerical purposes at no cost? > > You can download SunOS for sun3 legal and for free from > http://www.sun3zoo.de/ -- Clinesterton Beademung - in all of love. Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?" You ask, "What is the most important thing?" Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata." I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) 2003-11-11 8:13 ` Wesley Parish @ 2003-11-11 12:15 ` Tim Bradshaw 2003-11-11 15:09 ` Derrik Walker v2.0 2003-11-11 18:15 ` Kenneth Stailey 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Tim Bradshaw @ 2003-11-11 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw) * Wesley Parish wrote: > I've personally thought that Sun should release the source trees of its old > BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back onside with all the Linux and > Unix people it pissed off by its "buying" a "Unix" license from SCO, the > Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers. I suspect that releasing source to virtually any substantial, recent commercial Unix is a hideous political nightmare. They almost certainly have code that came from many other companies, under lots of different license agreements, none of which were designed to allow for open source distribution, and every one of which has to be looked at very carefully in case someone pops up and sues. And all the code will have been mangled together in all sorts of exciting ways. I remember that getting BSD 4.x released was a huge saga, and SunOS4 is bound to be much worse politically. > I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K emulation stuff out there - > for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3 emulator should be > relatively easy. Surely small Sun3s should be easy to come by? They were until recently, anyway. --tim ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) 2003-11-11 8:13 ` Wesley Parish 2003-11-11 12:15 ` Tim Bradshaw @ 2003-11-11 15:09 ` Derrik Walker v2.0 2003-11-11 18:15 ` Kenneth Stailey 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Derrik Walker v2.0 @ 2003-11-11 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw) On Nov 11, 2003, at 3:13 AM, Wesley Parish wrote: > I've personally thought that Sun should release the source trees of > its old > BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back onside with all the > Linux and > Unix people it pissed off by its "buying" a "Unix" license from SCO, > the > Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers. > > I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K emulation stuff out > there - > for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3 emulator should be > relatively easy. > > What do Sun-worshippers ;^) think? > A Sun 3 emulator would kick butt! So would an Sun 4c or 4m emulator ... and I'm sure modern PowerPC and Intel chips are fast enough to do it well. - Derrik firebug at apk.net http://junior.apk.net/~firebug ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Getadelt wird wer schmerzen Kennt. Von feuer das die haut verbrennt. Ich werf ein light. Ein heisser schrei. Feuer Frei! -- "Feuer Frei" Rammstein ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) 2003-11-11 8:13 ` Wesley Parish 2003-11-11 12:15 ` Tim Bradshaw 2003-11-11 15:09 ` Derrik Walker v2.0 @ 2003-11-11 18:15 ` Kenneth Stailey 2003-11-14 4:43 ` Kenneth Stailey 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-11-11 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw) --- Wesley Parish <wes.parish at paradise.net.nz> wrote: > I've personally thought that Sun should release the source trees of its old > BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back onside with all the Linux and > Unix people it pissed off by its "buying" a "Unix" license from SCO, the > Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers. > > I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K emulation stuff out there - > for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3 emulator should be > relatively easy. Like very easy: http://theory.lcs.mit.edu/~fredette/tme/index.html > What do Sun-worshippers ;^) think? > > Wesley Parish > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:22, Jochen Kunz wrote: > > On 2003.11.08 13:30 Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > > Does Sun still keep SunOS 4 under wraps or can it be > > > used for non-commerical purposes at no cost? > > > > You can download SunOS for sun3 legal and for free from > > http://www.sun3zoo.de/ > > -- > Clinesterton Beademung - in all of love. > Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?" > You ask, "What is the most important thing?" > Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata." > I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people." > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) 2003-11-11 18:15 ` Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-11-14 4:43 ` Kenneth Stailey 2003-11-14 16:12 ` Brad Spencer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-11-14 4:43 UTC (permalink / raw) --- Kenneth Stailey <kstailey at yahoo.com> wrote: > > --- Wesley Parish <wes.parish at paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > I've personally thought that Sun should release the source trees of its old > > > BSD-based SunOS with the idea of getting back onside with all the Linux and > > > Unix people it pissed off by its "buying" a "Unix" license from SCO, the > > Societe Commercial du On-Dit, the Commercial Society of Rumourmongers. > > > > I was also thinking - there's enough free MC68K emulation stuff out there - > > > for Mac, Amiga, Atari, etc - that writing a Sun3 emulator should be > > relatively easy. > > Like very easy: > > http://theory.lcs.mit.edu/~fredette/tme/index.html I was able to the the tme sun2 to work with the serial console on a FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE box. The GTK GUI had problems that I will look at later. $ tip sun2 can't open log file /var/log/aculog. connected Self Test completed successfully. Sun Workstation, Model Sun-2/120 or Sun-2/170, Sun-2 keyboard ROM Rev R, 4MB memory installed Serial #4393, Ethernet address 8:0:20:DE:AD:BF Probing Multibus: sd Using RS232 A input. Auto-boot in progress... Boot: sd(0,0,0)vmunix Waiting for disk to spin up... Please start it, if necessary, -OR- press any key to quit. >? What? >r SS: 00000FFC? US: 00400000? SF: 00000003? Does anyone have suggestions where to get SunOS for a sun2? > > What do Sun-worshippers ;^) think? > > > > Wesley Parish > > > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:22, Jochen Kunz wrote: > > > On 2003.11.08 13:30 Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > > > Does Sun still keep SunOS 4 under wraps or can it be > > > > used for non-commerical purposes at no cost? > > > > > > You can download SunOS for sun3 legal and for free from > > > http://www.sun3zoo.de/ > > > > -- > > Clinesterton Beademung - in all of love. > > Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?" > > You ask, "What is the most important thing?" > > Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata." > > I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people." > > _______________________________________________ > > TUHS mailing list > > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!) 2003-11-14 4:43 ` Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-11-14 16:12 ` Brad Spencer 2003-11-14 23:02 ` old SunOS (was Re: Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)) Kenneth Stailey 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Brad Spencer @ 2003-11-14 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) [snip] Does anyone have suggestions where to get SunOS for a sun2? [snip] While you are looking for a copy, you can try NetBSD/sun2. -- Brad Spencer - brad at anduin.eldar.org -- KC8VKS http://anduin.eldar.org - & - http://anduin.ipv6.eldar.org [IPv6 only] [finger brad at anduin.eldar.org for PGP public key] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* old SunOS (was Re: Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)) 2003-11-14 16:12 ` Brad Spencer @ 2003-11-14 23:02 ` Kenneth Stailey 2003-11-15 0:21 ` old SunOS (was Re: Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remotexterm!!)) Markus Weber 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-11-14 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw) --- Brad Spencer <brad at anduin.eldar.org> wrote: > > [snip] > > Does anyone have suggestions where to get SunOS for a sun2? > > [snip] > > > While you are looking for a copy, you can try NetBSD/sun2. Hmm. I started out wanting to run X11 on a Sun3. How did I end up here? I have a Sun3. I have installed various NetBSD versions. I found that only 1.3 supports X11. Others initialize to the point of drawing the stipple background halfway down the screen and then coredump. Pro'lly segfault. I was interested in running real SunOS on my real Sun3 and found it was available for no cost. Warren asked about a Sun3 emulator and I found a Sun2 one. I was hoping to do trial SunOS installations on an emulator but it appears I'm ahead of my time. :) > -- > Brad Spencer - brad at anduin.eldar.org -- KC8VKS > http://anduin.eldar.org - & - http://anduin.ipv6.eldar.org [IPv6 only] > [finger brad at anduin.eldar.org for PGP public key] > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* old SunOS (was Re: Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remotexterm!!)) 2003-11-14 23:02 ` old SunOS (was Re: Heritage X (was Re: [TUHS] Lauch Gui using remote xterm!!)) Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-11-15 0:21 ` Markus Weber 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Markus Weber @ 2003-11-15 0:21 UTC (permalink / raw) > > I was interested in running real SunOS on my real Sun3 and found it was > available for no cost. > > Warren asked about a Sun3 emulator and I found a Sun2 one. I was > hoping to do > trial SunOS installations on an emulator but it appears I'm ahead > of my time. > :) I'd love to have a sun3 emulator for old time's sake. After a bit of research, the sun3x architecture in general and the 3/80 model in particular look like the most straightforward choice. There are several open-source choices for the CPU/MMU/FPU core and there appears to be a decent amount of documentation and (driver) reference code to code the emulation of the internal devices. www.sun3arc.org and www.sun3zoo.de are a trip down memory lane, if for no other reason than having known the folks running these sites and having had an office on the floor where the servers appear to be physically located. I don't know if it would be easier to modify or expand an existing emulator for a box of similar complexity or starting from scratch, but in either case it seems like a solvable problem. To finally drop the question, who would be interested in working on such an emulator? Cheers -Markus --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.536 / Virus Database: 331 - Release Date: 11/3/2003 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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