From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27589 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2023 23:18:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Mar 2023 23:18:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F1A41335; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:18:20 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1678403900; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=aDXBY9W1bL6n/aXBYeDaIrrkgtTxJR7nVxMsmycjJ5c=; b=xLBtjJ+wjygiaMDDSl3LIchO20kRzapPdFyU0mNXBktoUM1igerYKr5uvQaW+O3qrOeQ51 es1Rdzo68hUtB3JXyaaSmyAQWrFVwc6VDsAYGI/GfXdaTl+dQXlXXCBJgrOc4LTRCzI6Xp OpcSI7pBFvlfnf6f0iOSd+W2LgcRLoU= Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch (mail-4319.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.19]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6ECF4132A for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:18:14 +1000 (AEST) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 23:18:07 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1678403893; x=1678663093; bh=aDXBY9W1bL6n/aXBYeDaIrrkgtTxJR7nVxMsmycjJ5c=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=R1hINym8gUHAtZiK+QQjKZP1mouECUfetfB47bZPpO4ACNa433/sm5GPCAL5PvQNb 5n/+mNOT8rDGeOP+s1+FpUYif59Gn/R4MhL3Lub+rnkAh6RWwT9UF6c3OX4493FRoR q70RMW//Wl+WIVcyspq1ol55fan8I+5m+Kf6ZQmZ+mXskE3zmq7/eQQqh22isF7+qo l0krJSfbpjAJjmYjMmmDFb0/h4tuWFKY7nTVWD04d/bsRq6Erq+KkBzGyami8tznPD ijVRGHUY+32WFjBbEEVEUgDfOdL7jr1XJglMlHL/Lq6uaR9CLNRYVtj4XGKu5IFaJy iQNIM2OcnmaWA== To: Steffen Nurpmeso Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20230309230130.q4I-f%steffen@sdaoden.eu> References: <20230309230130.q4I-f%steffen@sdaoden.eu> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: U7V27553MQSOS72LJXUUFJE4BKVCXPAY X-Message-ID-Hash: U7V27553MQSOS72LJXUUFJE4BKVCXPAY X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco GOTO is one of those paradoxical things where I would only trust the most s= ophisticated engineer to know when it's acceptable to use a GOTO but on the= flip side would be suspicious of anyone claiming to be an engineer that us= es any amount of GOTOs... Were any of the various GOTOs in languages ever meant to be any more than p= roviding the same level of control that branch statements in assembly do? = Was there ever some vision anyone's aware of concerning a sophisticated, de= pendable use of GOTOs? Since my first days poking around learning C GOTO h= as been mentally filed away as an assembly vestige for folks in transition,= not a dependable construct in its own right. Any alternative camps out th= ere? - Matt G. ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, March 9th, 2023 at 3:01 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > I wonder if Pink Floyd's Summer68 maybe refers to this. > Other than that i am addicted and could not live without it. > The other (terrible) song is from 1984 (east southern US). >=20 > --steffen > | > |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, > |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one > |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off > |(By Robert Gernhardt)