From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3807 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2023 03:17:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Aug 2023 03:17:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60ABF40FA3; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 13:17:47 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1691637467; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=C93BZqA15jQx46qvIS/j/YlHgSOtnQBTrWr/YMJZ+GI=; b=rL0NiY/9yw6T45rLMGUPJx/o7IHCdvGp8bRfpDggZK4P29Ku6MiTF0pkn/xhvA8nka936j PmFqKFhHN9T65RHcZlvuJ8Su7gV92MVR58S/Rat0NmMxKEhtUNOBMafrUDaTFJoYrLV6+7 nLb9vDwAddyneWff+tD+wUr6WVdmwXI= Received: from mail-4027.protonmail.ch (mail-4027.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.27]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25A0240F81 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 13:17:42 +1000 (AEST) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 03:17:25 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1691637459; x=1691896659; bh=C93BZqA15jQx46qvIS/j/YlHgSOtnQBTrWr/YMJZ+GI=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=HR4rJWFyCbsuy96nAK3cgRYteIKrh6yxuA2gnd/8tsytuyIWSCrEToD7APDd9UVLM IScw1+wZbHDL9oy4Gg7lGhEkIC0IZgiHGVcNAR/RuY9F9ra5x/4FO7kPKd3ILnGNYj ft6ot6xOR5hEf9Vm+zBZ/5FsUpRS4cA1mPtn+p9fW4OO5bFIELZA4hFS7EGvpJ7HAQ bqM74rdNVIxrpDI3hPMotEKc8v/ovyI6pEZ6ER8FiMqlNk96dCmFJKu3aJ6y/y/Mlr TVAaYvrDD6AOhFrirSAXBBooC/QkQQRQlwjrCuU5aRTTIrStYEeOaFsq2RJQAvEf9d ivS+hlcebo+uA== To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <20230810010940.9B3C635E102@mcvoy.com> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: N2SP6Y6EAG2Y4KKMFTFDO3PLNEB74XPV X-Message-ID-Hash: N2SP6Y6EAG2Y4KKMFTFDO3PLNEB74XPV X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: when did v8 or later get networking? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco > > > TCP/IP, not datakit. > >=20 > > The V8 manual contains internet(3), tcp(3), and udp(3). In the copy I h= ave these are dated 8/7/85. Down in the kernel in /usr/sys/inet the earlies= t files appear to be dated 3/22/85. I'm going to do a comparison with the 4= .1cBSD TCP/IP stuff because a casual glance reveals some overlap. > > - Matt G. >=20 >=20 > Yea, I thought it was 4.1bsd + later tcp code but with a STREAMS instead = of Socket interface... >=20 > Warner This comment at the top of /usr/sys/netinet/socket.c is illuminating: > /* > * socket emulation routines > * pretty much 4.2 sys/uipc_socket2.c > */ All of the files that have timestamps at the top list 83/07/29, except ip_i= nput.c which has 83/08/16 instead. The V8 version has _device (device driv= er) and _ld (line discipline) components that the 4.1cBSD code does not hav= e. Many other files have analogs between the two. The byte ordering subro= utines have been copied into a file, goo.s, from their home in 4.1cBSD in t= he C library (/usr/src/lib/libc/net/misc). When this work originated someo= ne else would need to answer, but looks like it was as Warner described, mo= dified 4.xBSD TCP/IP. - Matt G.