From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11824 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2023 08:40:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Feb 2023 08:40:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACF040A6E; Mon, 6 Feb 2023 18:39:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lechuck.jsg.id.au (jsg.id.au [193.114.144.202]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34BE640A6D for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2023 18:39:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from largo.jsg.id.au (largo.jsg.id.au [192.168.1.43]) by lechuck.jsg.id.au (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPS id 51553be9 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Mon, 6 Feb 2023 19:39:43 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from localhost (largo.jsg.id.au [local]) by largo.jsg.id.au (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 316f83f3; Mon, 6 Feb 2023 19:39:42 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 19:39:42 +1100 From: Jonathan Gray To: Paul Ruizendaal Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Message-ID-Hash: 7XQKZPGVKRCMXJRVNW6QN6BJX5MTDZ5V X-Message-ID-Hash: 7XQKZPGVKRCMXJRVNW6QN6BJX5MTDZ5V X-MailFrom: jsg@jsg.id.au X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Earliest UNIX Workstations? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 06:01:49PM +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 12:20:52AM +0100, Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS wrote: > > > > Herewith some interesting (somewhat) contemporary papers on early windowing systems: > > > > 1. There was a conference in the UK early in 1985 discussing the state of window systems on Unix. Much interesting discussion and two talks by James Gosling, one about NeWS (then still called SunDew), and one about what seems to be SunWindows. It would seem then that these were developed almost in parallel. > > > > http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/inf/literature/books/wm/contents.htm > > Another window system was Whitechapel Computer Works' Oriel. further described in: Dominic Sweetman - A Modular Window System for Unix http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/inf/literature/books/wm/p007.htm Later there were MIPS machines, such as the R2000 based Hitech 10 which ran UMIPS (4.3BSD) with a choice of X11 and NeWS. http://web.archive.org/web/20030205212745/http://www.galactic.co.uk/iainf/mg1.html http://www.umips.net/riscos/index.html Dominic Sweetman and Nigel Stephens of Whitechapel would later go on to be involved in Algorithmics, which was acquired by MIPS Technologies in 2002 and became MIPS UK. https://cgi.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cs3231/doc/R3000.pdf https://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Algorithmics