From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22438 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2023 10:04:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Feb 2023 10:04:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B5C40A7E; Mon, 6 Feb 2023 20:04:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lechuck.jsg.id.au (jsg.id.au [193.114.144.202]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8843E40A7D for ; Mon, 6 Feb 2023 20:03:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from largo.jsg.id.au (largo.jsg.id.au [192.168.1.43]) by lechuck.jsg.id.au (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPS id e172bea0 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Mon, 6 Feb 2023 21:03:54 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from localhost (largo.jsg.id.au [local]) by largo.jsg.id.au (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id e63c5956; Mon, 6 Feb 2023 21:03:54 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 21:03:54 +1100 From: Jonathan Gray To: Paul Ruizendaal Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Message-ID-Hash: 5UQQAF7SKXLDDLXPBUJHYOQ4GLFDXWKF X-Message-ID-Hash: 5UQQAF7SKXLDDLXPBUJHYOQ4GLFDXWKF X-MailFrom: jsg@jsg.id.au X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] window systems (was Re: Earliest UNIX Workstations?) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 07:39:42PM +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 06:01:49PM +1100, Jonathan Gray wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 12:20:52AM +0100, Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS wrote: > > > > > > Herewith some interesting (somewhat) contemporary papers on early windowing systems: > > > > > > 1. There was a conference in the UK early in 1985 discussing the state of window systems on Unix. Much interesting discussion and two talks by James Gosling, one about NeWS (then still called SunDew), and one about what seems to be SunWindows. It would seem then that these were developed almost in parallel. > > > > > > http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/inf/literature/books/wm/contents.htm > > > > Another window system was Whitechapel Computer Works' Oriel. > > further described in: > Dominic Sweetman - A Modular Window System for Unix > http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/inf/literature/books/wm/p007.htm there is a survey of various window systems SunWindows, Oriel, Andrew, X, in: http://reports-archive.adm.cs.cmu.edu/anon/itc/CMU-ITC-045.pdf Tutorial Materials Usenix Technical Conference Denver, Colorado January 15-17, 1986 #7 Windowing Systems Implementations David S. H. Rosenthal also mentions "Other Kernel-Based Systems The window system developed at LucasFilm by Sam Leffler and Mike Hawley, and described at the Portland Usenix, is another example of a kernel-based system. It supports an impressive user interface toolkit, similar to that on the Blit." Michael J. Hawley, Samuel J. Leffler - Windows for UNIX at Lucasfilm https://archive.org/details/1985-proceedings-summer-portland/page/392/mode/2up paper has some pictures of it