From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24275 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2021 15:16:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Mar 2021 15:16:29 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0EEDD9C8AA; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:16:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6689C82B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:16:08 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=adamsgaard.dk header.i=@adamsgaard.dk header.b="QDGsnETg"; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="kF4Gv7HZ"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E20ED9C82B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:16:05 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 376 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:16:03 AEST Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD2219C829 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 01:16:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169DC5C00E1; Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 29 Mar 2021 11:09:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamsgaard.dk; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm1; bh=D6wdrngwkJeaYbadCKQnHAOMKvm 95Jh6fSisXhAKyBY=; b=QDGsnETgDEr0I/Fs17ejpw0Y1+Ln5zD342u9h6H1WMr AZmBPaU9LzlYsMgAOvBrnvkTa9uN++2XFvJhaHtMW0+TQDabmmg6Z3cn/mkzWyL1 XiMlLMOJnXMVuXuAXlrjkXccnDfqRIe5+7tAAS6q7ziWK+gmOvAD3UpjlRm8TiPA fGTa2Mf0sTYEXLOHZ345hTQqBZHsJ2nYXaSX3bQbhFkEWTOSiTFQrnyrHqlm4ses ryu/gHZKCyw/6nJutD63+QwyLce9gCLQBJdSaSowr9NESSE41o2pgLjRqFMOMtGq L53D8yRI3j+RQcrLiNQGVkQrArL+0CQHKpkgw4i+75A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=D6wdrn gwkJeaYbadCKQnHAOMKvm95Jh6fSisXhAKyBY=; b=kF4Gv7HZpnuIEmW6JC63Eo +R0sPMudopXPA+oJx5DSWkXZ/lklVLSUidZzxAq4Xn8cuSIC7ZEnXjzGNZYrak2N HGrLryuSS/nh4NsbzSsGCq4Lvwd5zs1ULnP6dnAeIhF5P0JGAHhuWP2jXt798BpM xCDS966UXXIwovWa3mKJtPLruoWFg+kolmuFyoZMM1eMg4nbcL98+44zbzbBxUCL il8BZXPBHiyg+WuDY16boic9EIOSZIQfomXbNZRRt7tyLlwLQuFhlZuucGoE3Ktu SpQYsuDaTYTykzJHgltuKp257KCZYE8WxSoUCRSNCFVRIr4+MNgAa/nenwaMbPxQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrudehkedgkeejucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehttdertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpeetnhguvghr shcuffgrmhhsghgrrghrugcuoegrnhguvghrshesrggurghmshhgrggrrhgurdgukheqne cuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepteekvdehieekuedutefhtdelgeeiiedviefghfehleelkeev gfeileegffdvhfegnecuffhomhgrihhnpeihohhurhdqshgvrhhvvghrrdguvgdpkhgrth holhgriidrnhgvthdprggurghmshhgrggrrhgurdgukhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigv pedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegrnhguvghrshesrggurghmshhgrggrrh gurdgukh X-ME-Proxy: Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:09:18 +0200 From: Anders Damsgaard To: Larry McVoy Message-ID: References: <20210329143449.GA28080@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210329143449.GA28080@mcvoy.com> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Remember the ed thread? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" * Larry McVoy [2021-03-29 07:34:49 -0700]: >I had *.clients.your-server.de crawling mcvoy.com in violation of my >robots.txt. For whatever reason, the tty settings (or something) >made vi not work, I dunno what the deal is, stty -tabs didn't help. > >So I had to resort to ed to write and debug the little program below. >It was surprisingly pleasant, it's probably the first time I've used ed >for anything real in at least a decade. My fingers still know it. > >+1 for ed. It's how many decades old and still useful? I recently learned ed(1) for the first time (I have a unix beard, but it's not grey yet). I found ed to be very efficient and useful for small fixes, even on slow connections. This beginner's tutorial was very helpful for me: gopher://katolaz.net/0/ed_tutorial.txt (https mirror for non-gopher clients: https://adamsgaard.dk/npub/ed_tutorial.txt )