From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI,
	RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4
Received: (qmail 18077 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2021 21:14:11 -0000
Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53)
  by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 5 Apr 2021 21:14:11 -0000
Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112)
	id 7B3539CADD; Tue,  6 Apr 2021 07:14:07 +1000 (AEST)
Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97279C883;
	Tue,  6 Apr 2021 07:13:46 +1000 (AEST)
Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112)
 id 68E929C883; Tue,  6 Apr 2021 07:11:40 +1000 (AEST)
Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11])
 by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89C839C83D
 for <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>; Tue,  6 Apr 2021 07:11:39 +1000 (AEST)
Received: from cwcc.thunk.org (pool-72-74-133-215.bstnma.fios.verizon.net
 [72.74.133.215]) (authenticated bits=0)
 (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
 by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 135LBZY4015725
 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT);
 Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:11:36 -0400
Received: by cwcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806)
 id 859F515C3399; Mon,  5 Apr 2021 17:11:35 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 17:11:35 -0400
From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
Message-ID: <YGt9B1IA77cZUQLl@mit.edu>
References: <CACNPpeafZb=Ty_AuT2m_GBDQwzMzWMabKUhqgwJXH4zvbXY6VA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAP2nic1VfB3r_prvGorH=QFRp7isMea2R-X-hGjggo0X_9WB1g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAP2nic2yFW3gB54xRWZsaYuMcwYWhM54hR7p5CiTwSzrJ9VVpA@mail.gmail.com>
 <20210404052939.xivuinlcugqb5zde@localhost.localdomain>
 <CAC20D2P1g--jRfTPcNpxLu1rWyFDnQAo_Kv2fzzRYNouM2VoxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAD2gp_TGmOnxehqB3CB5tEyfinfsv1+TvbvRDFmN1HmxGj6JKQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANCZdfrinu8npadwhuGANWq8_GVc4e7V7dGqcXimWzQ6HjtEXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <19643.1617646039@hop.toad.com>
 <CAC20D2MJ41ZToSJKqXLgbSSCAkGuyGCVTPM7-HVMCaPnT79pww@mail.gmail.com>
 <20210405203954.GP28660@mcvoy.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <20210405203954.GP28660@mcvoy.com>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference
X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26
Precedence: list
List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list <tuhs.minnie.tuhs.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/tuhs>,
 <mailto:tuhs-request@minnie.tuhs.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/>
List-Post: <mailto:tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tuhs-request@minnie.tuhs.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tuhs>,
 <mailto:tuhs-request@minnie.tuhs.org?subject=subscribe>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org
Sender: "TUHS" <tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org>

On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 01:39:54PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> Whoever was running Usenix contacted me after seeing the success of 
> Linux Expo and begged me to bring those people to Usenix.  I was offered
> a board seat, I could be reviewer for life, anything I wanted.
> 
> All I asked for was blind reviews.  Didn't ask anything for myself, just
> blind reviews so you could be a nobody and get judged on the quaility of
> your work rather than your name.

FAST reviews are blind.  ATC conferences are (as of the last time I
was on an ATC PC a year or two ago) are still not blinded.

	       	      	   	   - Ted