From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3112 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2021 18:11:11 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Jul 2021 18:11:11 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A1F109C9AB; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 04:11:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8577B9C86C; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 04:10:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1F2B99C86C; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 04:10:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B6DF9C864 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2021 04:10:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cwcc.thunk.org (pool-72-74-133-215.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.133.215]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 163IAODd014494 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 3 Jul 2021 14:10:24 -0400 Received: by cwcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 18DAA15C3CE6; Sat, 3 Jul 2021 14:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 14:10:24 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Warner Losh Message-ID: References: <20210702213648.GW817@mcvoy.com> <396911b232bae5938068a14fe0f7181e@firemail.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TUHS] [tuhs] The Unix shell: a 50-year view X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Sat, Jul 03, 2021 at 11:57:44AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > You mean System V's sar program? BSD has never had a sar program. > It's not in any of the CSRG releases, nor in any of {Free,Net,Open}BSD > systems that are around today. Ah, I got confused because a web search turned up: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sar&sektion=1M&apropos=0&manpath=SunOS+5.8 .... and I got mislead because FreeBSD hosts Solaris man pages. Although it appears more recently FreeBSD has "bsdsar" in its Ports. My larger point remains, though; is System V considered "Unix" by Dan Cross's definition? :-) - Ted