From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19051 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2022 10:46:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Feb 2022 10:46:59 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C67599D6ED; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 20:46:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6469B9F3; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 20:46:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D95109B9F3; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 20:46:25 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1099 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2022 20:46:24 AEST Received: from smtp.hope-2000.org (smtp.hope-2000.org [78.46.35.119]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95E399B95E for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 20:46:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from executor.headcrashers.org (executor.headcrashers.org [IPv6:2a01:4f8:221:fe00:224:d7ff:fe15:817c]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.hope-2000.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 212AS2me025567 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 11:28:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from executor.headcrashers.org (executor.local [127.0.0.1]) by executor.headcrashers.org (8.16.1+Sun/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 212AS2Bx024741 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 11:28:02 +0100 (CET) Received: (from woodstoc@localhost) by executor.headcrashers.org (8.16.1+Sun/8.16.1/Submit) id 212AS1Uj024740 for tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 2 Feb 2022 11:28:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 11:28:01 +0100 From: Hans Rosenfeld To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TUHS] BSD 4.1, 4.1x, Quasijarus, and 4.3x X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 03:34:53PM -0600, Will Senn wrote: > 2. Sokolov implies that the CSRG mission started going off the rails with > the 4.3/4.3BSD-Tahoe and it all went pear shaped with the 4.3-Reno release, > and that Quasijarus puts the mission back on track, is that so? Well, thats just his opinion. You can still read all about it here: https://ifctfvax.superglobalmegacorp.com/ > 3. I've gotten BSD 4.2 and BSD 4.3 releases built from tape and working very > well. I just can't decide whether to go back to one of the 4.x releases > (hence question 1), or go get Quasijarus0c - thoughts on why one might be > more interesting than another? IIRC 4.3-Tahoe was the first to support running on MicroVAX II, III and later systems based on the CVAX chip and the QBus. But getting it installed on one of these was a pain to say the least. The main reason was that it required the use of disk labels on the directly-attached MSCP disks commonly found on these systems, but it lacked a standalone utility for creating them during installation. >From my recollection Michael made a few small improvements to what he found in 4.3-Tahoe, and a standalone disklabel utility may or may not have been one of them. I do remember that when I first installed 4.3-Tahoe (Or was it Quasijarus 0b?) on a real MicroVAX II about 20 years ago, I had to create the disklabels with NetBSD 1.5, which apparently were still reasonably compatible back then. > 4. Is Quasijarus0c end of the line for VAX 4.xBSD? Why does tuhs only have > Quasijarus0 and 0a, was there something wrong with 0b and 0c? It's basically just yet another branch off the Unix family tree, originating at 4.3BSD-Tahoe and not going very far. He had big plans to support most later MicroVAX models, but apparently that never materialized. Hans -- %SYSTEM-F-ANARCHISM, The operating system has been overthrown