From: Angelo Papenhoff <aap@papnet.eu>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] [tuhs] PDP-11 and early Unix
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 20:03:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yi+RbHruoYlcAORv@indra.papnet.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2OMk1F9hNFfvEfETa4J_Y54HNLr54v8QPZax+VnA2cdeA@mail.gmail.com>
On 14/03/22, Clem Cole wrote:
> >
> > And a tip of the hatly hat for getting this:
> >
> > Although the ++ and - operators in C are equivalents of DEC and INC
> > instructions, they were inspired by an addressing mode in the PDP-7.
> >
> As I said, the authors seem to have done a little homework, although I was
> under the impression ??Ken?? had created them for B independently (which,
> of course, was first on the PDP-7). The ++/-- for increment and decrement
> was just a nice notation since they are such a common occurrence in real
> code, it's handy to have. But, I did not think the PDP-7 ISA includes
> addressing modes in the same manner as the 11. I'm probably confused, but
> I thought PDP-7 is a very simple instruction (and small) with an AC,
> Link/Indirection and a PC - it reminded me of the PDP-8 more than anything
> else [although, IIRC it could do both 1's complement and 2's - depending
> the type of AND instruction].
The PDP-7 has auto-increment registers at 10-17 that are incremented
when addressed indirectly.
I don't think it's even possible that the B runtime used them, because
of the implied indirection, which is logically separate in B.
They might still have been an inspiration, but i didn't get that
impression from the copious discussion of that topic.
aap
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-14 19:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-14 16:56 Noel Chiappa
2022-03-14 18:00 ` Clem Cole
2022-03-14 19:03 ` Angelo Papenhoff [this message]
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2022-03-14 20:38 Noel Chiappa
2022-03-14 20:22 Noel Chiappa
2022-03-14 12:58 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2022-03-14 14:59 ` Ron Natalie
2022-03-14 15:13 ` Clem Cole
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