From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4587 invoked from network); 2 May 2022 14:49:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 May 2022 14:49:23 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 91DF39D474; Tue, 3 May 2022 00:49:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F739D431; Tue, 3 May 2022 00:47:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E09AE9D431; Tue, 3 May 2022 00:47:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 162429CE23 for ; Tue, 3 May 2022 00:47:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from penguin.thunk.org (cn-8-34-116-185.paclightwave.com [8.34.116.185] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 242Eku7x011290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 2 May 2022 10:46:58 -0400 Received: by penguin.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 223B540EDA; Mon, 2 May 2022 07:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 07:46:51 -0700 From: tytso To: Clem Cole Message-ID: References: <57977CE7-DDCC-4861-BBD2-843B9B9F51C2@ronnatalie.com> <202205020242.2422g30m074857@ultimate.com> <2815597f-e1f2-498f-b0c3-763952ac734e@www.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TUHS] First Unix-like OSes not derived from AT&T code? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 09:50:28AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: > [1] Sadly, when I checked this AM, the OpenSSI website seemed to be taken > down. I d not believe OpenSSI was ever beyond Linux 2.6 kernel. IMO: It > was a shame that the upstream Linux kernel team had been willing to take > the VPROC changes, it would have been a very interesting and > exciting system enhancement. As Ron said, anyone that used TCF or TNC was > pretty much hooked. I'll have to do some more poking to find out what > happened. It looks like some sources and mailung list archives for OpenSSI are still available sourceforage: https://sourceforge.net/p/ssic-linux >From what I can tell, the OpenSSI folks were focsued on porting OpenSSI to various distributions (Fedora, Debian, RHEL), etc., but they were not focused on getting any of their changes upstream. The only evidence I can find of OpenSSI on the Linux Kernel mailing list was a forwarded announcement of OpenSSI 1.0: https://lore.kernel.org/all/410DDFA2.40107@hp.com/T/#r2b3cfcce5ccd8127a8493e7987349a1921597537 And apparently OpenSSI had patches to e2fsprogs (since they had a clusterfied version of ext3), but no one ever sent the OpenSSI e2fsprogs patches to me for review. So it appears that it was not a matter of "the upstream Linux kernel team.... [being] willing to take the VPROC changes", it was more like no one asked, or prepared patches that could be considered by usptream. - Ted