From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25836 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2023 14:01:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Aug 2023 14:01:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490F540C64; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:00:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lechuck.jsg.id.au (jsg.id.au [193.114.144.202]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D361940BA7 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:00:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from largo.jsg.id.au (largo.jsg.id.au [192.168.1.43]) by lechuck.jsg.id.au (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPS id 8e2800bf (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:00:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (largo.jsg.id.au [local]) by largo.jsg.id.au (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 9d0862a5; Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:00:44 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 00:00:44 +1000 From: Jonathan Gray To: Larry McVoy Message-ID: References: <20230810010940.9B3C635E102@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230810010940.9B3C635E102@mcvoy.com> Message-ID-Hash: L3C6LRFKWRNNWOVVVFS5O5EESGEEX44J X-Message-ID-Hash: L3C6LRFKWRNNWOVVVFS5O5EESGEEX44J X-MailFrom: jsg@jsg.id.au X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: when did v8 or later get networking? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 06:09:40PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote: > > TCP/IP, not datakit. > "The closest we got to using 4.n BSD was when Robert Morris, now at MIT, imported the 4.1c TCP/IP stack into 7/8th edition (I believe in 84) nominally as my summer student." Dave Presotto on 9fans, 2001-10-01 https://marc.info/?l=9fans&m=111558818409805&w=2 "the 8th edition system including Streams was already pretty much in place by the time that Robert Morris adapted the then-current BSD TCP/IP stack to streams. At that time, we were using either serial communication over various modems, and more notably Datakit. Looking back at this, one of the satisfying things is that the communication structure built then was adaptable so smoothly to TCP/IP when the protocol's importance became undeniable." Dennis Ritchie on 9fans, 2001-10-02 https://marc.info/?l=9fans&m=111558818709848&w=2