From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22582 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2024 17:19:10 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Jan 2024 17:19:10 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EF743EDC; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 03:19:04 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1704820744; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=BS20NWONP9bRRuyfUTwBML2pH0vMXJukYzoces1MSyw=; b=0o0ugtrGUletfRn30B6URvygy1yynd2UMBx8rBMjUibTOesi8+iWENY+1bALsriqUdxoKM Wo7ha8cvO3v8/mFYbZvFUSlwJBVvvybzQ126MHJN3T6MxkIlMQvBIbwuzeSmlWBoTMbuyx vzTxPON7Ld4WsEE+h3j236VorBRm2YA= Received: from mail-40130.protonmail.ch (mail-40130.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.130]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C540343EDB for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 03:18:56 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1704820734; x=1705079934; bh=BS20NWONP9bRRuyfUTwBML2pH0vMXJukYzoces1MSyw=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=IlGou3YF4u9MK8yb8OapVNevXiVQ0HTmVCaf4D4F31WjRJUrNJsk1oc/QmCqU+fRk 7xNoo4EmPDkeXfI/R9qS0mWyzMzxDfcqe0oR5AVQ26P7n8POJRvq2133cBHcnJvJ15 uqo/mS9efFNfb3aqw/h9yuhgwH88KzfUTYRYGA8Yp1+cTBALzq5QmFso23YLfNyGHk Txr2AyQ0W86XvJy6aLw/wDwjYbQkZ3ldRR+MQAu+GxjIgp9Ox4Bp5tuLBeKfDgYA/z r4sa+/KW3x/FH3SB+UYG/JfalAEF8czT9Y2TIfLRf6FuG0jC7BUWYygnDuMJ06MT30 C1vju9IYIgAEw== Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 17:18:30 +0000 To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <20240108032428.co3ozmlneoop6sa2@illithid> <20240108051049.7643537404E9@freecalypso.org> <20240108071109.ykg42tw2gjeacs5f@illithid> <20240109093851.2A29737401E3@freecalypso.org> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: FXFD6KD5NGKNRD5C7DKIADWR2HOSO6TW X-Message-ID-Hash: FXFD6KD5NGKNRD5C7DKIADWR2HOSO6TW X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual? / My own version of troff List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco On Tuesday, January 9th, 2024 at 8:27 AM, Al Kossow wro= te: > Tracing the origins of the typefaces used on the GSI/Wang typesetter is a= fun rathole > going back to Singer Graphic Systems and to Singer-Friden (ie Flexowriter= ) before that >=20 On the subject of troff origins, in a world where troff didn't exist, and o= ne purchases a C/A/T, what was the general approach to actually using the t= hing? Was there some sort of datasheet the vendor supplied that the end us= er would have to program a driver around, or was there any sort of example = code or other materials provided to give folks a leg up on using their new,= expensive instrument? Did they have any "packaged bundles" for users of p= rominent systems such as 360/370 OSs or say one of the DEC OSs? Similarly, were any vendor-or-locally-provided solutions used prior to the = maturation of troff to the point it was used for the Fourth Edition manual = typesetting? Or was the C/A/T from day one of "production" use being drive= n pretty much exclusively by troff? I admit my knowledge of this stuff is = fuzzy, such as whether troff+C/A/T was the plan from the outset of acquirin= g the C/A/T or if there was ever a time where folks at research may have be= en cooking on a different approach to using the thing. - Matt G.