From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31935 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2021 21:24:26 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Jan 2021 21:24:26 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 221F09C733; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:24:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B679B720; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:23:57 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=earthlink.net header.i=@earthlink.net header.b="c1EjzFS5"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0DF579B720; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:23:55 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 16984 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:23:54 AEST Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47DD19B715 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 07:23:54 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=earthlink.net; s=dk12062016; t=1611782634; bh=LwRzCYyp/xgBEfvhV11UO1myM9Alw1xDIEMo W2ZuYwI=; h=Received:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace: X-Originating-IP; b=c1EjzFS5QuDA43h2ZVhtXE2J5kBqKqQ7jy85BSujHzPl0p m/38PHpb8B+QhAVyuyIicaJzEb5s6oimkLnjYUJN/Xr37wnuT5zfPUq232Mv96V4ULK sK6btiMsyEyYeg6FzJ9F7R11w7ti67mYGDlpxoHu38yblol4vt+sdeSpAx530z8+BCp afFrhqCWIlDWAKqq7hcY5gKKrfOK4EcW0T1H+2TjxVgFmV1qlmRyArC4zao2VwFSFi3 SG68pdr0ZlgOFA5nInFCCGjUbLL/VFbsRZ8X81ll3hzWB1FWOxUozD3plOTqTARTJ1T FKf+iKmybTh6D/w1Xa9P15SFWT3g== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk12062016; d=earthlink.net; b=S9rvWvrckvv/PXDF3rM41CMB/UJgDGxxFW7CtAKoWpXfshruO+Yd4V8upk8RogLlwBPn2erdAwHz4b5VVx3BwYjMqD6dRUOolzSugU7qlCdIarD5zOm98uwd8qZmIOP8zNPxFDMbotBNT9BHUS0bbtEtfahWKGCpTXmzGF82pMtvGD941sAF6SydabMERZY2eq4h7ebu3wegn9SKGgzz3JHAoouOkmwp00+edWVnUtrrW5iWQPUVMldHyNA5unq7rKJ6uGG1fn+auyajGvdg18hhDm1pknoxyBykMwImXfLZaujJSyPAstFmTABNFd2fJuNXH8Ml+tTlQB+JoVm37g==; h=Received:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [35.137.239.183] (helo=joker2.seclark.com) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4) (envelope-from ) id 1l4ns7-000Gu6-2n; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:40:47 -0500 To: Larry McVoy , Dave Horsfall References: <20210124212525.GJ21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242333.10ONXjcI974038@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202101250021.10P0L3Z2976588@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <6557f782-ecb1-6476-1eda-e23f30f9bbea@bitsavers.org> <202101260138.10Q1ceo21049597@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210127154742.GB4227@mcvoy.com> From: Stephen Clark Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:40:46 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210127154742.GB4227@mcvoy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-ELNK-Trace: a437fbc6971e80f61aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79b82a09614ed0aa722347ee894923c554350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 35.137.239.183 Subject: Re: [TUHS] tangential unix question: whatever happened to NeWS? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: sclark46@earthlink.net Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 1/27/21 10:47 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 02:11:26PM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: >> Ugh! I've seen some ugly windowing systems in my time, but X... Heck, even >> CP/M had a better system, IIRC. > CP/M didn't have a window system, at least mine didn't. Hard to do that > in 64K (I had 128K banked with the crt mapped into the 2nd bank). Neither did mine I had an original Altair 8800 I had built and started with CP/M 2.2 then upgraded to 3.0 and wrote my own bios and flashed into a prom board I had built from kit. Computers were sure a lot simpler in those days. -- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." (Thomas Jefferson) "Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy!" (Ben Franklin)