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From: krewat@kilonet.net (Arthur Krewat)
Subject: [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together,
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 15:30:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a730d3b4-fcb7-1304-8344-b0188ef5dad5@kilonet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170209195457.373C940B9@lod.com>

WAY off-topic. Sorry.

On 2/9/2017 2:54 PM, Corey Lindsly wrote:
> 3ms? Really? I'm impressed, and I'd like to see your traceroute. We peer
> directly with Google and I get 4-5ms. Do share.
>
>

Two fiber connections here to Verizon FIOS, one business, one residential:

FIOS business fiber 50M/50M in New York, Long Island to be exact, low 
4's, high 3's:

root at hnet1:/data/tmp# ping -s 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=0. 
time=4.167 ms
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=1. 
time=3.871 ms
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=2. 
time=4.062 ms
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=3. 
time=4.093 ms
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=4. 
time=4.050 ms
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=5. 
time=3.900 ms

root at hnet1:/data/tmp# traceroute -t 2 8.8.8.8
traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
  1  <removed> (<removed>)  0.598 ms  0.615 ms 0.559 ms
  2  B3384.NYCMNY-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (100.41.217.224) 2.884 ms  
3.137 ms  3.903 ms
  3  * * *
  4  0.ae11.GW13.NYC1.ALTER.NET (140.222.234.191)  2.719 ms 
0.ae13.GW13.NYC1.ALTER.NET (140.222.234.193)  2.560 ms 
0.ae11.GW13.NYC1.ALTER.NET (140.222.234.191)  2.377 ms
  5  google-gw.customer.alter.net (204.148.18.206)  62.332 ms  56.885 
ms  55.203 ms
  6  209.85.247.33 (209.85.247.33)  2.885 ms  2.771 ms 2.735 ms
  7  108.170.233.235 (108.170.233.235)  2.936 ms 108.170.235.13 
(108.170.235.13)  3.490 ms 108.170.233.233 (108.170.233.233)  3.152 ms
  8  google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8)  3.495 ms * *

FIOS residential 150/150M, low 3's:

medusa# ping -s 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=0. 
time=3.497 ms
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=1. 
time=3.286 ms
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=2. 
time=3.368 ms
64 bytes from google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8): icmp_seq=3. 
time=3.315 ms

Traceroute not available without altering my Cisco ASA config.

I think it's entirely possible that 8.8.8.8 is more than one host, and 
depending on geographical location you're being routed to any of a 
number of actual hosts ;)

Speed of light from New York to California is approximately 1.3ms. I 
can't imagine all these routers don't add SOMETHING to do the latency... 
so I can't see how I can ping a California hosts in the low 3 ms area.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-09 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-07  3:03 [TUHS] How Unix brings people together, or it's a small Doug McIlroy
2017-02-07  4:06 ` Marc Rochkind
2017-02-07 23:10   ` Clem Cole
2017-02-07 23:38     ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-08  2:55       ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it's a small...) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-02-08  3:47         ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08  3:56           ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-08  8:25             ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-08  9:57               ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-08 11:21             ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08 11:59               ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it'sa small...) jsteve
2017-02-08 12:24                 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08 12:29               ` [TUHS] Code bloat Jacob Goense
2017-02-08 12:57                 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08 13:10                 ` jsteve
2017-02-08 14:10                   ` Jacob Goense
2017-02-08 14:34                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-02-08 14:43                       ` Brantley Coile
2017-02-08 15:09                       ` Dan Cross
2017-02-08 15:26                         ` Nick Downing
2017-02-08 15:18                     ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-08 16:25                 ` Tony Finch
2017-02-09 14:03                   ` Jacob Goense
2017-02-09 14:41                     ` jsteve
2017-02-09 15:03                       ` Jacob Goense
2017-02-09 15:08                         ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-09 15:30                     ` Tony Finch
2017-02-09 16:14                       ` Warner Losh
2017-02-09 23:38                         ` [TUHS] Free/NetBSD revision history (was Code bloat) Jacob Goense
2017-02-10  4:11                           ` Warner Losh
2017-02-10  4:17                           ` Warner Losh
2017-02-08 13:56               ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it's a small...) Paul Ruizendaal
     [not found]                 ` <CAH1jEzZqRPYenwzBbUwFVanA-NVvWMGzYiADVoAXCDOqnUrMrg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-09  3:02                   ` [TUHS] Fwd: " Nick Downing
2017-02-09  9:19                     ` [TUHS] " Paul Ruizendaal
2017-02-09  9:58                       ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-09 10:08                         ` Paul Ruizendaal
2017-02-09 16:36                       ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-09 16:42                         ` Warner Losh
2017-02-09 16:49                           ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-09 17:24                             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-09 17:27                               ` [TUHS] offtopic: broadband (redirect from bloat) Larry McVoy
2017-02-09 19:05                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-09 22:48                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-09 19:54                             ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, Corey Lindsly
2017-02-09 20:08                               ` pechter
2017-02-09 20:30                               ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2017-02-09 23:47                                 ` Jacob Goense
2017-02-09 21:06                               ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-09 21:02                             ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it's a small...) Joerg Schilling
2017-02-09 16:58                         ` [TUHS] Code bloat William Pechter
2017-02-09 19:50                       ` [TUHS] Code bloat (was: How Unix brings people together, or it's a small...) Clem Cole
2017-02-08  5:37           ` Peter Jeremy
2017-02-08 12:16       ` [TUHS] How Unix brings people together, or it's a small ches@Cheswick.com

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