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From: Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: NFS 40th anniversary event
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2025 15:24:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae43bf2f-253f-45e4-af6b-55dd429174b4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANxB0bTVx-bVo7syZLwgfPz8Kh2PM8pHoLdiAYLN9cFqW16SYQ@mail.gmail.com>

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 From my own experience, no real depth of knowledge here... I use NFS 
for my home shares. Painless with automount and nfsv4. I can't speak to 
widespread use in enterprise, but as a "casual" nfs user, it gets the 
job done nicely. I share a folder called ark from one of my servers and 
mount it on all of my machines. The ark lives on a mirrored zpool that 
is frequently snapshotted to another mirrored zpool on another server 
(I'm less of a zfs casual user, but that's an aside). I haven't lost a 
bit this way in the couple of years since I stood up the nfs share and I 
offloaded about 1TB of stuff I like to have on hand to the server. I 
tried Samba, ick, seems like windowism to me and I tried some NAS stuff, 
but nfs was fastest and simplest. I haven't really found anything better 
that works as painlessly as nfs, though I do look into alternatives 
every so often.

What else to try?

Thanks,

Will



On 8/13/25 11:43 AM, Tom Lyon wrote:
> BTW, my own opinions abut NFS can be seen in my "NFS Must Die!" talk 
> here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVF_djcccKc&ab_channel=TomLyon 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVF_djcccKc&ab_channel=TomLyon>
>
> Not that NFS *was* bad - but it *is* bad (for non-casual use).
> Like the C language, it was great for its time.  Not so much anymore.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 9:24 AM Peter Weinberger (温博格) via TUHS 
> <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
>
>     It was a research proof-of-princple. (i.e.. partly principled and
>     partly really hacky. My list of its issues was pretty long.)
>
>     (If A mounted B's file system somewhere, and B mounted A's, then the
>     directory tree was infinite. That's mathematics, not a bug.)
>
>     On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 11:56 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 10:18:34AM -0400, Dan Cross wrote:
>     > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 10:00???AM Douglas McIlroy
>     > > <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>     > > > I was always sorry that Peter Weinberger's RFS never made it
>     outside
>     > > > Bell Labs. It allowed networking between separately administered
>     > > > systems by mapping UIDs.
>     > >
>     > > I believe it did?  If I recall correctly, it was available
>     with System
>     > > V, though perhaps I am misremembering.
>     >
>     > Sunos had it, my office mate ported it.  I was unimpressed, it
>     worked well
>     > between the same archs but was riddled with byte order problems and
>     > ioctl calls that were not portable.
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-13 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-13  0:59 [TUHS] NFS 40th anniversary event Tom Lyon
2025-08-13  1:55 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2025-08-13  3:05   ` Dave Horsfall
2025-08-13  5:59     ` [TUHS] Greetings! Phillip Harbison
2025-08-13 14:00     ` [TUHS] Re: NFS 40th anniversary event Douglas McIlroy
2025-08-13 14:18       ` Dan Cross
2025-08-13 14:59         ` arnold
2025-08-13 15:26           ` Douglas McIlroy
2025-08-13 15:34             ` arnold
2025-08-13 15:47           ` Martin Schröder
2025-08-14  3:43             ` arnold
2025-08-13 15:56         ` Larry McVoy
2025-08-13 16:24           ` Peter Weinberger (温博格) via TUHS
2025-08-13 16:43             ` Tom Lyon
2025-08-13 17:27               ` Larry McVoy
2025-08-13 20:24               ` Will Senn [this message]
2025-08-14  1:41               ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2025-08-14  2:04                 ` Tom Lyon
2025-08-14  0:31         ` Jonathan Gray
2025-08-14  0:54           ` Charles H. Sauer (he/him)
2025-08-14  1:28             ` Rich Salz
2025-08-14  1:29             ` Tom Lyon
2025-08-13 17:08       ` [TUHS] RFS Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)

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