From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_SBL,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ba9254b9 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4E16E93F9E; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 06:36:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA2C93D4A; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 06:36:12 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="JXRoVJOU"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 0A29493D4A; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 06:36:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qv1-f65.google.com (mail-qv1-f65.google.com [209.85.219.65]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 788BB93D47 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2019 06:36:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qv1-f65.google.com with SMTP id s18so3530691qvr.4 for ; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 12:36:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=IuwUHExVfuGaL0xt/6Yk4djmt3jQtGFjEOm7GQ+VUOY=; b=JXRoVJOUciE1zaM/2kkz2bYarui4f+XZx7rL05lu+KFZvNJ/wxKJceONrDACHjeY92 9V+aNqCNtPfdZVcRNuq+er9iKDny9RV3eKPFY+jhOgH2YTdItz5E6/H4AXhHh+VsVp3p R3XF/WDMb3hdu9KIu7Gdeh2dWEKsFjhfprAR3bZD70wVHt7Du4q5D8uG6DU0A0IoXVMR 1HtWROG3vj1liqEOT+grz3QWy80kvz1z8uHUZMBYonM/0MpC4HaJz+BipA9ppE3+K4/W DYiQGhtt2PwGPzY+7Qp5TiJWTFlRL7zhrzC7Q7YTp60sY+EL4Ot00Pyoqj0X5a4QC7+U GsKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=IuwUHExVfuGaL0xt/6Yk4djmt3jQtGFjEOm7GQ+VUOY=; b=QDz9uJKXzMfR5IkSUQh3TDO/F9rGbs4AV20kGhZTiqdcjEY3UrgyCX9UBDJuLfPptj mYhJEUITz2rVdrq4SwAhP8IC17kcb9YydMPjWhp+j3ekolzkhKdakj/rGoNXPXtGOKeK ZaCxzcVTAy9itCM6+TFlCKWNShIbbYhEOnjhfZ+psbHb/AmjAGcnywlxbDra5gOB5deQ D9NxSM7KtPOgGCvc8b74qyWbyuTGfn6F8cr7gfl2qvAcoZwTWAOWOGL/m6e5D1aOFI+P FB79Djsw6zn84kD/LDCrW1cXC+/aeydY6ZcuzVl6s9N7+zDr43dz8ddTe+ZFOKUNRRRe U6Kg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUtEXOc0G8t1zNb65Z0wqdYr4Vir0jLFwy3ZWBMaJh48vdhDw4A ZLo4L2g2TflQ7u6iC0SCWCv5lJd+NGg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyusWzpWPTsFwl29AJWeV6VHvBsMRlq1jlNGi3ZMbVUx2F9foRh35h0+fGRhpt35BYC6xk2xQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:8d4:: with SMTP id da20mr16910815qvb.2.1573331768321; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 12:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:14d:201:f8e0:c6ca:be43:bb57:59c3? ([2601:14d:201:f8e0:c6ca:be43:bb57:59c3]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 13sm5857576qkm.23.2019.11.09.12.36.07 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Nov 2019 12:36:07 -0800 (PST) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <2ce9495a-b877-91be-ff5b-5516b8269562@gmail.com> From: "Derrik Walker v2.0" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2019 15:36:06 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2ce9495a-b877-91be-ff5b-5516b8269562@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [TUHS] UNIX or unix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 11/9/19 12:20 PM, Nemo Nusquam wrote: > I was reading the comments on Hackaday on UNIX at 50 > (https://hackaday.com/2019/11/05/will-the-real-unix-please-stand-up/). > As expected, a lot of manure but some interesting comments from > seemingly knowledgeable people. > > One comment > (https://hackaday.com/2019/11/05/will-the-real-unix-please-stand-up/#comment-6192977), > from a DDS, stated that (s)he worked at The Bell and they wrote it > "unix" (lower-case) to distinguish it from MULTICS.  Anyone care to > comment on this? > > N. It was always my understanding, based totally on hearsay from engineers from both Sun and SGI back in my early days with it, UNIX is the OS, while unix, or vmunix is the kernel. Unix was deprecated by the time it became a real commercial product. So, right or wrong, I've always used UNIX for the OS, and unix, or vmunix as appropriate, to refer to the kernel. - Derrik -- Derrik Walker v2.0 dwalker@doomd.net https://www.doomd.net "Those UNIX guys, they think weird!" -- John C. Dvorak