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* [TUHS] Oldest Unix source code still in modern systems
@ 2012-05-21  5:18 Warren Toomey
  2012-05-21 15:00 ` Jeremy C. Reed
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From: Warren Toomey @ 2012-05-21  5:18 UTC (permalink / raw)


I was doing a trawl of related Unix source trees, and found that some early
C code from around 2nd Edition Unix is still in OpenSolaris today:

http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V2/cmd/if.c

Choose: Compare this file to OpenSolaris_b135/cmd/fmli/sys/test.c
and then click on the Side Scroll or the Printable button.

There's about 15 lines of code in common between the 2 files.

Cheers,
	Warren



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* [TUHS] Oldest Unix source code still in modern systems
  2012-05-21  5:18 [TUHS] Oldest Unix source code still in modern systems Warren Toomey
@ 2012-05-21 15:00 ` Jeremy C. Reed
  2012-05-21 15:43   ` Armando Stettner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jeremy C. Reed @ 2012-05-21 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Mon, 21 May 2012, Warren Toomey wrote:

> I was doing a trawl of related Unix source trees, and found that some early
> C code from around 2nd Edition Unix is still in OpenSolaris today:
> 
> http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V2/cmd/if.c
> 
> Choose: Compare this file to OpenSolaris_b135/cmd/fmli/sys/test.c
> and then click on the Side Scroll or the Printable button.
> 
> There's about 15 lines of code in common between the 2 files.

Cool.  I recently did the same thing for BSD. 
http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/2012/05/Features181.html
Some examples of code that is mostly the same since the first Berkeley 
distribution are: colcrt, expand, mkstr, and soelim. But a few others 
still have some of the original ~1976-1977 code.



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* [TUHS] Oldest Unix source code still in modern systems
  2012-05-21 15:00 ` Jeremy C. Reed
@ 2012-05-21 15:43   ` Armando Stettner
  2012-05-21 16:15     ` Michael Davidson
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From: Armando Stettner @ 2012-05-21 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)


I would have suspected the oldest source code still existing in systems would be along the lines

/*
 * you are not expected to understand this.
 */

   :)

  aps


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On May 21, 2012, at 11:00 AM, "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at reedmedia.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 May 2012, Warren Toomey wrote:
> 
>> I was doing a trawl of related Unix source trees, and found that some early
>> C code from around 2nd Edition Unix is still in OpenSolaris today:
>> 
>> http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V2/cmd/if.c
>> 
>> Choose: Compare this file to OpenSolaris_b135/cmd/fmli/sys/test.c
>> and then click on the Side Scroll or the Printable button.
>> 
>> There's about 15 lines of code in common between the 2 files.
> 
> Cool.  I recently did the same thing for BSD. 
> http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/2012/05/Features181.html
> Some examples of code that is mostly the same since the first Berkeley 
> distribution are: colcrt, expand, mkstr, and soelim. But a few others 
> still have some of the original ~1976-1977 code.
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* [TUHS] Oldest Unix source code still in modern systems
  2012-05-21 15:43   ` Armando Stettner
@ 2012-05-21 16:15     ` Michael Davidson
  2012-05-22  7:35       ` Dave Horsfall
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From: Michael Davidson @ 2012-05-21 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)


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--- On Mon, 5/21/12, Armando Stettner <aps at ieee.org> wrote:

I would have suspected the oldest source code still existing in systems would be along the lines

/*
 * you are not expected to understand this.
 */

That would certainly still be appropriate for the Linux context switch code which,
last time I looked, was a horrible mess of gcc "asm" constructs glued together
with C preprocessor macros.

The comment that I miss most, however, is:

/*
 * printf should not be used for chit chat
 */

md



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* [TUHS] Oldest Unix source code still in modern systems
  2012-05-21 16:15     ` Michael Davidson
@ 2012-05-22  7:35       ` Dave Horsfall
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From: Dave Horsfall @ 2012-05-22  7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Mon, 21 May 2012, Michael Davidson wrote:

>       /*
>       * you are not expected to understand this.
>       */

Line 2238, of course :-)  For any youngsters here, that code is *subtle*.  
Vale, both DMR and Dr John Lions (my lecturer at UNSW).

> That would certainly still be appropriate for the Linux context switch 
> code which, last time I looked, was a horrible mess of gcc "asm" 
> constructs glued together with C preprocessor macros.

Typical Penguin/OS.  I am in stitches.

> The comment that I miss most, however, is:
> 
> /*
>  * printf should not be used for chit chat
>  */

My favourite too :-)  We ended up implementing the call via the TTY
interface, so that our 11/40 would not be brought to her knees.

-- Dave



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* [TUHS] Oldest Unix source code still in modern systems
@ 2012-05-21  7:45 arnold
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From: arnold @ 2012-05-21  7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)


> I was doing a trawl of related Unix source trees, and found that some early
> C code from around 2nd Edition Unix is still in OpenSolaris today:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it?

:-)



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