From: usotsuki@buric.co (Steve Nickolas)
Subject: [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:05:03 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1702202000580.41003@frieza.hoshinet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1487635966.58ab85fec0716@www.paradise.net.nz>
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017, Wesley Parish wrote:
> I think we can lay a lot of the blame for that major annoyance on the
> two related facts:
> a: there is no universal windowing system everybody adheres to, just two
> major commercial ones with spin-offs for smartphones and the like;
> b: a lot of Linux developers are chasing MS Windows in hope of desktop
> market share and copy MS Windows features and misfeatures.
I don't disagree. But I think there is a universal system, although it
has been left to crumble to dust over the years, and having been picked up
it still needs a lot of work to be usable in the 21st century. That would
be CDE - I'm not aware of any other X Window environment that made it into
any versions of the Unix standard (iirc it's part of "Unix 93
Workstation"?)
> A major irony is that MS Windows itself has chased Linux somewhat on the
> graphical user interface front - Linux was the platform of GUI redesign
> for OLPC and Android, Microsoft took the bait and tried it as a desktop
> in MS Win 8.0 and got slammed for it.
A tablet environment doesn't work very well on a desktop, although a
desktop environment can work reasonably well on a tablet (been there done
that; I have a Windows 10 tablet).
> Setting out standards for a herd of cats is not much of an option; the
> best one could do is publish RFCs giving a list of features that have
> been proven to work in practice and hope for the best.
>
> Wesley Parish
Herd of cats sums it up nicely.
At least CUA makes a reasonable baseline, and most open-source GUI
environments and programs seem to support that, as have Windows and OS/2
since almost the beginning.
-uso.
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Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-16 7:28 [TUHS] Mushi and Bagu Rudi Blom
2017-02-16 9:36 ` jsteve
2017-02-16 10:42 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-16 13:49 ` Rudi Blom
2017-02-17 11:30 ` [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other jsteve
2017-02-17 14:22 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 16:13 ` Chet Ramey
2017-02-17 14:29 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 17:23 ` Warner Losh
2017-02-18 22:25 ` Nemo
2017-02-19 6:20 ` jsteve
2017-02-19 7:01 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-19 13:46 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-19 15:44 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 18:14 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-20 22:24 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 23:16 ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-20 23:18 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 23:25 ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-20 23:20 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 0:12 ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-21 1:05 ` Steve Nickolas [this message]
2017-02-21 10:30 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 13:47 ` Random832
2017-02-21 15:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 15:54 ` Diomidis Spinellis
2017-02-21 16:38 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-21 16:48 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 16:32 ` Random832
2017-02-21 16:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 17:10 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-21 19:44 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 21:17 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-21 21:37 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 8:57 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 9:56 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-22 10:26 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 10:29 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-19 21:19 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-20 0:29 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-20 1:58 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-20 1:29 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-19 22:59 ` Derek Fawcus
2017-02-17 15:47 Atindra Chaturvedi
2017-02-17 16:55 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-17 20:04 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-19 5:48 Jason Stevens
2017-02-20 6:38 Rudi Blom
2017-02-21 4:16 Doug McIlroy
2017-02-21 12:02 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 12:24 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-21 12:57 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-21 15:02 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 1:50 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22 2:25 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-22 3:11 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 4:07 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22 4:17 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-23 15:31 ` Nemo
2017-02-23 16:00 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-23 16:50 ` Nemo
2017-02-23 22:02 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-24 1:30 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-24 20:54 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-24 1:01 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-22 10:16 ` jsteve
2017-02-21 15:15 ` Chet Ramey
2017-02-21 16:47 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 18:58 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-21 19:21 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 20:17 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-21 20:28 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 20:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 22:58 ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-22 1:19 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 9:00 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 0:52 ` Andy Kosela
2017-02-22 1:04 ` ron minnich
2017-02-22 1:33 ` jason-tuhs
2017-02-22 3:18 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 3:45 ` ron minnich
2017-02-22 4:06 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 4:11 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 16:25 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 21:49 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 23:10 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-21 23:14 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-22 1:22 Rudi Blom
2017-02-22 3:08 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-22 3:51 Rudi Blom
2017-02-26 18:33 Norman Wilson
2017-02-28 20:26 ` Dave Horsfall
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